Sextet filter

Re: Sextet filter

Postby Mirel » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:58 pm

First , how many index digits are repeated from previous draw(s) in the same position .
Is important analysis positions that occurred index digits . How many repeats indifferently by positions is less important .
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby teoman » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:24 pm

Mirel wrote:First , how many index digits are repeated from previous draw(s) in the same position .
Is important analysis positions that occurred index digits . How many repeats indifferently by positions is less important .

Now, if we have so many filters, 'per ticket', 'per position', why it would not be as complete and this filter?
Why is less important how many repeats indifferently by positions?
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby Mirel » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:03 pm

For the same reason for which we do not have this kind of filter for first/last digits : are eliminated less combinations .
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby teoman » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:40 am

Mirel wrote:For the same reason for which we do not have this kind of filter for first/last digits : are eliminated less combinations .

As shown in the image, which eliminated less combinations of they: 'per ticket' or 'per position'?
This situation is for all filters of this type, 'per ticket' rejects more combinations.
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby Mirel » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:29 am

teoman wrote:
Mirel wrote:For the same reason for which we do not have this kind of filter for first/last digits : are eliminated less combinations .

As shown in the image, which eliminated less combinations of they: 'per ticket' or 'per position'?
This situation is for all filters of this type, 'per ticket' rejects more combinations.

Method ' any position ' is an advantage when it is
applied to a small number of draws (1 draw in that example) but for example :
( I got the example given on page 1 )
''
Here is ticket index digits for last 10 Romanian 6/49 draws :
0 0 1 0 2 4 7 3
0 9 6 5 5 7 2 8
0 3 8 9 6 0 8 8
1 2 3 3 9 1 8 6
0 0 0 5 6 0 7 0
0 2 2 0 2 5 8 5
1 0 3 1 6 0 1 5
0 5 0 3 8 1 3 5
0 7 6 8 3 1 0 0
0 6 5 0 4 2 2 3

''
The second and third draws repeat 4 digits , ' any position ' :
0 9 6 5 5 7 2 8
0 3 8 9 6 0 8 8
and to the first digit is 0 or 1 always .
draws 7 and 8 :
1 0 3 1 6 0 1 5
0 5 0 3 8 1 3 5
repeat 5 ' any position ' !!
Between each draws is repeated 5 digits " same positions " ?
Normally it's done well as filters has completely from the first , but best would be to look
on the Web the formulas which calculates ticket index for a specific draw but also inversely
giving a draw for a specific ticket index , if you have free time .
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby stan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:04 pm

not sure what this dispute is about (if it really is a dispute:) but adding switch 'match by position' to a ticket filter is very little extra work
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby stan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:05 pm

Mirel wrote:Normally it's done well as filters has completely from the first , but best would be to look
on the Web the formulas which calculates ticket index for a specific draw but also inversely
giving a draw for a specific ticket index , if you have free time .

i do have formulas to calculate ticket index from any ticket and to reconstruct ticket numbers from a given ticket index but it's not trivial. i have no problem sharing that with you but you'd need some programming language to implement that formula
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby CARBOB » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:29 pm

stan wrote:
Mirel wrote:Normally it's done well as filters has completely from the first , but best would be to look
on the Web the formulas which calculates ticket index for a specific draw but also inversely
giving a draw for a specific ticket index , if you have free time .

i do have formulas to calculate ticket index from any ticket and to reconstruct ticket numbers from a given ticket index but it's not trivial. i have no problem sharing that with you but you'd need some programming language to implement that formula



Stan, what type of program language would I need? I am very interested in a ticket index filter, with stats. For a 5/36 game, if you can pick the last 3 digits, of the index, you are left with 377 combinations. Pick the last 4 digits, of the index, you are left with 37 combinations, with the Jackpot ticket.

examples Florida Fantasy 5/36,
6/21/11 8-10-27-29-33
last 4 digits of the ticket index 263654

combinations produced
01 02 11 28 34
01 04 10 19 26
01 06 16 18 28
01 09 16 30 35
01 14 15 25 30
02 03 06 22 25
02 05 08 10 20
02 07 15 34 36
02 10 26 31 34
02 16 24 30 34
03 04 29 32 35
03 07 12 15 19
03 10 17 23 31
03 15 31 32 35
04 05 21 27 30
04 08 15 18 32
04 12 15 32 36
04 20 26 29 35
05 08 09 29 30
05 11 19 22 30
05 18 22 33 36
06 08 23 24 31
06 12 25 27 31
06 23 27 28 31
07 11 13 18 27
07 17 19 29 30
08 10 27 29 33
08 16 25 26 33
09 12 13 15 35
09 19 24 32 34
10 14 24 29 34
11 13 15 29 34
11 27 28 29 31
12 23 27 28 29
14 15 17 26 31
15 19 20 26 32
17 21 23 25 32
21 25 32 34 36
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby stan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:05 pm

CARBOB wrote:
stan wrote:
Mirel wrote:Normally it's done well as filters has completely from the first , but best would be to look
on the Web the formulas which calculates ticket index for a specific draw but also inversely
giving a draw for a specific ticket index , if you have free time .

i do have formulas to calculate ticket index from any ticket and to reconstruct ticket numbers from a given ticket index but it's not trivial. i have no problem sharing that with you but you'd need some programming language to implement that formula



Stan, what type of program language would I need?

well, any programming language would do, e.g. visual basic. you just need support for multidimensional arrays and basic loops...
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby CARBOB » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:36 pm

Let's try visual basic
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby stan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:47 pm

the source code for combinations converter and index converter is attached. it's in java but the algorithm should be clear from the source code.
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby teoman » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:07 am

stan wrote:the source code for combinations converter and index converter is attached. it's in java but the algorithm should be clear from the source code.

Stan, I tried to run the two sources codes and have the following errors. See image.
What would be the cause?
I tried and wiht the 'NetBeans IDE 7.0' and have the same errors.
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Re: Sextet filter

Postby stan » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:34 pm

teoman wrote:
stan wrote:the source code for combinations converter and index converter is attached. it's in java but the algorithm should be clear from the source code.

Stan, I tried to run the two sources codes and have the following errors. See image.
What would be the cause?
I tried and wiht the 'NetBeans IDE 7.0' and have the same errors.

you can't run that code. it's just a snippet from a library that's included in expert lotto 5. you'd need to write a bit of extra java code to use that library.
i've attached the source so that you can study the algorithm and implement it in e.g. visual basic or some other programming language you're familiar with
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