Min and Max Pass Rate Enhancements

[dreamweaver]

Hi Stan,


I thought it was appropriate to start a new Topic thread for my request that I submitted in the following Post by tdnl46w

"Request extension to Highest/Lowest operator".........

Just to recap my request:

Hi Stan,

I just wanted to add to tdnl46w's request for this feature inclusion. I am not sure if tdnl46w's feature is along the same line as what I have interpreted from his request but
what I would like to see is when you specify a max (highest) and min (lowest) pass rates within most of EL5's Filters what I would like to see is to have the ability refine or de-select values
that may exist within this string value range.

To put this into very simplistic terms let's say that in one of EL5's Filter you may set a max pass rate value of 20 and a min pass rate of 9.

So the values in this range are extrapolated as follows:

20,19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9

What I would like to have available is the ability to del-select or take out one or more of the values in the above range

For example: you may want to exclude the following values: 19, 16, 13, 11 and 10

Therefore you end up with a modified max and min pass range and the Filter will process against those values only

i.e. 20,18,17,15,14,12 and 9

I would be interested to see this implemented in most of the EL5's Filters and would be more than welcome to discuss
on what Filters could have this feature available and what it would look like.

The benefits of this enables one to reduce the package considerably and possibly eliminate "noise" within the max and pass rate range,
From this example you are not filtering on 12 values but a reduced range of 7.

One could say why not create single lines in a complex filter for each of the 7 values !!! I believe this to be inefficient and
would lead to creating bulky and bloated filters. Why not have this available and achievable in a single iteration.

There are many possibilities for this approach and can also be used more so as well under the Winning Numbers Analyzing Feature

So you're suggesting that if a filter has 'min to pass & max to pass' option then you want to remove additional values from that range?

Hi Stan,

Thak you for your reply.

Your response is correct, a simple exercise of removing any number of values that have been defined within the min and max pass range in a Filter.

I would also like to add another element to this Post Request

Additional Request:

Currently within the Winning Number Analyzer you have the option to select values from a sorted analyzed table, but there is not an option to filter directly from the selection of values from the Winning Number Sorted Analyzer Table

Let's take the following Winning Numbers Analyze scenario:

1. Let's say we did a Winning Numbers Analyze on "Segmentation Differences Sums"

2. From the Resulting Winning Numbers Analysis we then we select the following Segmentation Differences Sums values : "...153,162,172,175,183,193"
As per Table 1 below:

Pic_1.PNG

3. At this point and within the Analyzer Table you can Filter on those values but there are some
limitations.

4. Additionally you can copy the selected values and paste into a Complex Filter as per
Table 2 below:

Pic_2.PNG

The only Filtering action you can perform is to simply Run the Filter with the combined values

What I would like to request is to add an option/feature that would allow you to set a min and max pass rate over the values as displayed in the Combo Box in the Complex Filter.

For example you might want to set a minimum pass rate of 2 and a maximum pass rate of 3 in which currently you are not able to do so.


I look forward to your response

[stan]

But 'min/max to pass' option doesn't make sense for this kind of filter (Occurrences pasted from Analyzer table). The ticket being filtered will produce exactly one value and either the value will be in the list of values pasted from the Analyzer or not. There is nothing to be counted for min/max to pass...

[dreamweaver]

Hi Stan,

You are right this approach does not work with the Tables produced by the Winning Numbers Analyzer. But if you could apply this within the context of a normal complex filter
environment as per the original request that would be appreciated.

[stan]

you could apply this within the context of a normal complex filter

You mean if a filter group has e.g. 5 sub-filters then you want to be able to say to 'to pass = 1 or 3 or 5'?

[dreamweaver]

Hi Stan,

That is a correct interpretation of this request, but there are more elements to this that I am exploring but at this stage that would be
welcomed if you could have that feature as part of the min and max pass rate process.



Cheers

[stan]

you want to be able to say to 'to pass = 1 or 3 or 5'

for the example above - option 'to pass - 3' means that any three filters must pass or some specific ones?

[dreamweaver]

Hi Stan,

Once again thank you for your reply


I would like to expand and provide more detail around the features I would like to
see implemented.

Please refer to examples below:


Scenario 1 :

In this example I have created a Complex Filter with a single Filter Group that contains 15 Lines of the "Match Numbers in File" filter. see Image below

As a broad brush setting I have configured the following pass rate settings:

Min Pass Rate : 3
Max Pass Rate : 15

Image_1.PNG

What I would like to do is to select a combination of either or both non-contiguous and contiguous Min and Max pass rate values. For example the ability to select Pass Rate values as follows:


Individual non contiguous and contiguous Pass settings of say

10, 8, 14 , 6,7 ;


These values of course fall within the Total Range of (15) Complex Filter Lines.


I am not sure how you would handle the interface selection of these individual values. You could provide an additional dialog box that would allow the selection of non-conitguous and contiguous Pass Rates to SUPPLEMENT the Main Min and Max Pass Rate Counts setting, as per the Red Rectangle Box in Image 2.

Image_2.PNG

I look forward to yoor response

[stan]

You didn't answer my last question. In your latest example:

10, 8, 14 , 6,7 ;

This conditions means that any 10 OR 8 OR 14 OR 6 OR 7 sub-filters must pass but when any 3,4,5,9,11,12,13,15 sub-filters pass then the whole group filter condition will fail?

[dreamweaver]

Hi Stan,

This conditions means that any 10 OR 8 OR 14 OR 6 OR 7 sub-filters must pass but when any 3,4,5,9,11,12,13,15 sub-filters pass then the whole group filter condition will fail?

That is a correct interpretation of the conditions provided in the example above.


Cheers

[stan]

Ok, and what's the strategy behind this feature request? What advantage is it supposed to bring?

[dreamweaver]

Ok, and what's the strategy behind this feature request? What advantage is it supposed to bring?

1. You are not filtering on the "Full Range" of Filter Lines in a Complex Filter Group
in which possibly certain pass rates have a very low percentage chance of occurring.

If I can further explain this method using the example to date where I have a Complex Filter Group that contains 15 lines of a Specific Filter.

Let's say we do a back test against the last 30 Draws and you have the following results as per the Table below:

Backtest_30.PNG

From this Table you can see that the results are a mix of pass values ranging from 4 to 14 (Frequency Result).

If I wanted a strategy that would Filter only on the top (3) Frequency pass rates I could not isolate those pass rate
values, I would have to include the whole range of pass rates of 4 to 14.

By filtering on the selected top (3) pass rates I would end up having a much better package reduction than If I
filtered on the original pass rates of 4 to 14 and not to include the lower frequency values.

[stan]

Thanks for the explanation, it's an interesting theory. I'll try to come up with some unobtrusive UI that would allow this kind of selection.