Analyzer DUE?

Analyzer DUE?

Postby pyst7lot » Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:31 am

Does anyone make use of the DUE results in the analyzer?
Any tips?
Wouldn't it be great if the Analyzer worked automatically to accumulate all the overDUE filters into a complex filter - with the ability to set the overdue rating?
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby pyst7lot » Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:45 am

I just looked at the Odd/Even numbers stats.
For my lotto
1 Odd 5 Even numbers make up 9% of possible combinations.
The analyzer tells me that 7.07% of results have 1 odd 5 even numbers.
I had been expecting the Due % would show 9 less 7.07 or 1.93.
But it shows 2.35.

I guess the Due number takes other things into account and it makes my request for an expectation column more valid. :)
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:13 pm

You can read here how the Due value is calculated: https://www.expertlotto.com/en/help/en/ ... lyzer.html
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby pyst7lot » Fri May 02, 2025 1:04 am

The Odd Even table in that help file shows what I'm missing.
I think the explanation is incorrect
The expectation for 1 odd 5 even should be the same as for 5 odd 1 even.
The table only shows how many of each has occurred.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Fri May 02, 2025 11:29 am

Please read the documentation again, it doesn't work the way you think it's working.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby pyst7lot » Sat May 03, 2025 8:20 am

From the Help file.

Odd / Even Occurrence [%]
0:06 134,596 0.96
1:05 1,062,600 7.6
2:04 3,187,800 22.8
3:03 4,655,200 33.29
4:02 3,491,400 24.97
5:01 1,275,120 9.12
6:00 177,100 1.27

The table above shows the ratio of odd/even ticket numbers calculated for all possible combinations in a 6/49 lottery. From the table you can see that the most frequent combination is 3 odd numbers and 3 even numbers. There are 4,655,200 such tickets which makes 33.29% of all possible number combinations. The least frequent combination is 0 : 6, there are only 134,596 such tickets, that means 0.96% of all possible numbers combinations. So from strictly statistical point of view number, combinations with odd/even ratio 3:3 should be preferred while number combinations with odd/even 0:6 should be avoided when preparing your bet for the next draw.

I did expect 0-6 and 6-0 Odd Even to have the same percentage but I see why it isn't. I play a 6/40 game where they are the same and the table for a 6/49 game confused me,
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Sat May 03, 2025 8:56 am

What you're showing is how frequently a given combination appears in a full wheel. However the Due column is something else. If e.g. 3:3 combination should appear in approx 30% of combinations and it hit only once in the recent 10 draws then its Due value is higher than the Due value of e.g. 1:5 combination that hit 3 times in the same 10 draws.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby pyst7lot » Sun May 04, 2025 1:57 am

Yes, I understand that the table shows the possibilities BUT does the analyzer have a column for those percentages?
I only see a column in the analyzer which shows the percentages for past draws.
I would like to make a comparison between what is possible and what has actually happened.
It is something Lotwin Line Builder shows for it's limited number of filters.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Sun May 04, 2025 12:11 pm

That feature has already been requested elsewhere in this forum and it's on my todo list. However there some analyzers are too complicated to come up with a mathematical formula to calculate the value on the fly. So the only possibility is analyze the full wheel and store the results somewhere.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby tdnl46w » Tue May 13, 2025 1:49 am

pyst7lot wrote:Does anyone make use of the DUE results in the analyzer?

I don’t use the ‘DUE’ statistic because the average of intervals can vary too much as seen in many charts. I would much prefer a ‘Median’ DUE option, because in my experience it is much closer to how statistics are actually being drawn.

pyst7lot wrote:... I would like to make a comparison between what is possible and what has actually happened. ...
stan wrote:... there some analyzers are too complicated to come up with a mathematical formula to calculate the value on the fly. ...

For a specific statistic(s), wouldn’t this just be the count of occurrences in the selected draws verses the total count of occurrences in all combinations in a package to get a percentage? I know the complex filter Performance feature can do this to some extent, but it is too resource heavy(i.e. system ram/CPU) for some filters.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Wed May 21, 2025 11:02 am

I would much prefer a ‘Median’ DUE option
you mean the same formula for the Due column but use median instead of average?
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby tdnl46w » Thu May 22, 2025 5:44 am

stan wrote:
I would much prefer a ‘Median’ DUE option
you mean the same formula for the Due column but use median instead of average?

Yes.
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Re: Analyzer DUE?

Postby stan » Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:35 pm

The Median Interval and Median Due properties will be available in the next dev build update.
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