Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Postby pyst7lot » Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:16 am

Using the Statistical Filter.
First step is to use a few positional filters with a Numbers Table with numbers in draw order. ie. NOT numerically ordered.
Haven't worked out which filters will be potentially rewarding but I'm optimistic for good results. :)
Save the reduced package to a Ticket File.
Second step is to open another Lotto setup for the same game with numbers in the Number Table numerically sorted. Load the saved Ticket file and run the same filters (plus others).

Note. Some filters haven't been compatible with the unsorted Winning Numbers Table. I'm still checking what I can do.

My last step is likely to be using the Vert Pairs Sum filter with the Statistical Filter.
Takes me a little time because I want to filter using 30 or more Draw Distances.
It's a case of doing three Draw Distances at a time and saving each filtered result to a ticket file and inserting the Ticket File to work on the next three Draw Distances.
No wonder I'm hoping for more Draw Distances in the Analyser. :)

With reductions using the unsorted Winning Numbers Table and more reduciions using the sorted Winning Numbers Table my package is getting smaller. :)
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Re: Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Postby pyst7lot » Tue Jul 08, 2025 10:43 pm

Nope, not working. I was going to delete this thread but decided to leave it with this update. I think it was just coincidental that it looked like it was working.
Back to the drawing board.
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Re: Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Postby tdnl46w » Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:00 am

pyst7lot wrote: Note. Some filters haven't been compatible with the unsorted Winning Numbers Table. I'm still checking what I can do.

Are you playing the Strike and 6/40 Lotto together with unsorted numbers?

pyst7lot wrote:Takes me a little time because I want to filter using 30 or more Draw Distances.
It's a case of doing three Draw Distances at a time and saving each filtered result to a ticket file and inserting the Ticket File to work on the next three Draw Distances.

In the Vertical Pairs Sum filter, the "Draw distance:" is just a previous draw as compared to the latest draw. For instance. Draw distance [7] would be the 8th previous draw in the winning numbers list(the latest draw starts at 0). So you could just copy/paste 30 VPS filters in a complex filter and increment the distances needed.

I analyzed the NZ 6/40 Lotto for Vertical Pairs Sum and found it only has about 35 sums for each position in a full wheel. So another strategy you could try would be to select the top occurrences or percentages of those sums in the analyzer. If you need more info let me know.
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Re: Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Postby pyst7lot » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:43 am

I'm looking at ways to filter the 6/40 game with the unsorted winning number table (WNT).
I think I've seen something which might be useful but I need to test that.
So far I have been using VPS with the Stats filter with all positions combined and that's where the problem is, I think.
Using it all combined with a sorted WNT is not a problem.
However I think if I do individual positions with an unsorted WNT, it might work in a useful way for me.

I need to read and digest the second part of your answer, tdnl. :)
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Re: Now I'm double dipping and things look promising.

Postby pyst7lot » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:33 pm

The thing with the VPS filters in the Stats Filter and the Analyser is that only three draws distances are recognised at any time.
That's whichever three draw distances are chosen in the Tools.
EL just ignores the filters using other draw distances.
That's why I have to do my filtering in the way as described in the OP.

I have asked Stan if it would be possible to have more than three draw distances. He asked 'how many'? A dangerous question to ask me. I did think 10 would do but now I need 30 or more!. lol
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