Just some thoughts

Just some thoughts

Postby PadawanLotto » Mon May 04, 2009 12:07 am

I'm working with a 6/49 game here and it's drawn 13 times per month on average. In the statistics page I have setup Repeated 1, 6, 12, and 13. This shows numbers that repeated from the last draw to 13 past draws.

If I look at the Repeated 12 I find that on average 5 to 6 numbers are coming from the last 12 draws about 50% of the time. I know that the idea is to get all six numbers but most like likely your not doing that now. This could be a good way of reducing the amount of total numbers possible, instead of using all 49 numbers you could eliminate all of the numbers that were drawn 13 past draws and higher.

You're not going to have 5 to 6 numbers within the group of number that you chose for play every time but 50% of the time isn't to bad.

Now, I also checked out the Repeated 6 and found that 4 to 5 numbers are drawn from the last 6 draws about 50% of the time. Iknow this is no jackpot strategy but, it is a larg number reduction which could lead to some lower prize win possibilities.

I have just strated working with this idea and the last drawing was my first real test. After removing the numbers that were drawn 13+ draws ago I was left with 39 numbers for play and all 6 numbers that were drawn within the 39. I didn't have any 5 or 6 number wins but I did have some 4 number wins that still wouldn't have paid for the amount of tickets used, this was because some of the other filtering that I used didn't pass.

NOTE: You must remember that in a 6/49 drawing there is only 1 match 6 possible and there are are only 258 match 5's possible and there are only 13,545 match 4's possible per drawing so, it's easy to filter all of those out.

Good Luck!
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Postby CARBOB » Mon May 04, 2009 11:45 am

Padawan,
Nice to see you post. Hope all is well with you. This is not a bad strategy, 50% chance, are not bad odds. Getting a couple of filters to work as they should would also help. I will post the percent for Fla's Fantasy 5 and 6/53 in another post.

Fla Fantasy 5

13-DRAW REPEATS AVG
0% 0 0 #DIV/0!
0% 1 3 833.33
2% 2 41 60.98
11% 3 281 8.90
39% 4 987 2.53
48% 5 1188 2.10
2500
14-DRAW REPEATS AVG
0% 0 0 #DIV/0!
0% 1 1 2500.00
1% 2 29 86.21
9% 3 224 11.16
36% 4 892 2.80
54% 5 1354 1.85
2500
15-DRAW REPEATS AVG
0% 0 0 #DIV/0!
0% 1 0 #DIV/0!
1% 2 19 131.58
7% 3 180 13.89
33% 4 816 3.06
59% 5 1485 1.68
2500
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Postby lottoboy » Mon May 04, 2009 5:57 pm

Hi, Padawan:

Welcome to back!!! It's a real good strategy! Thanks.
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Postby kookoo » Mon May 04, 2009 6:22 pm

[quote=PadawanLotto]
NOTE: You must remember that in a 6/49 drawing there is only 1 match 6 possible and there are are only 258 match 5's possible and there are only 13,545 match 4's possible per drawing so, it's easy to filter all of those out.

Good Luck!
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hi pada,

which filter did you use to remove these combinations

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Postby Falcon » Tue May 05, 2009 1:07 pm

Padawan, Carbob,

Many thanks for bringing this process to our attention but I must admit I am having some difficulty with replicating your approach and the statistics you have derived. I may well be doing something quite incorrectly or my understanding of what Repeated[xx] is all about is wrong, but I can't get the numbers to gel as EL presents them. In my attachment I have loaded a draw history as a package and selected a line at random and where the numbers repeating are shown in the highlite eg 2,15 & 31. These numbers presumably have repeated from within the last for draws ie Repeated[4], but in the last 4 draws which I have coloured pale blue there is not one occasion where these numbers have previously appeared.
Thus I am either reading this totally incorrectly or is there perhaps something wrong with the EL statistical data?
Would appreciate any advice.
Thanks

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Postby E8035vba » Tue May 05, 2009 2:31 pm

Thanks Padawan,well appreciated....Bravo :-p
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Postby PadawanLotto » Wed May 06, 2009 2:42 pm

[quote=Falcon:1241521649]
Padawan, Carbob,

Many thanks for bringing this process to our attention but I must admit I am having some difficulty with replicating your approach and the statistics you have derived. I may well be doing something quite incorrectly or my understanding of what Repeated[xx] is all about is wrong, but I can't get the numbers to gel as EL presents them. In my attachment I have loaded a draw history as a package and selected a line at random and where the numbers repeating are shown in the highlite eg 2,15 & 31. These numbers presumably have repeated from within the last for draws ie Repeated[4], but in the last 4 draws which I have coloured pale blue there is not one occasion where these numbers have previously appeared.
Thus I am either reading this totally incorrectly or is there perhaps something wrong with the EL statistical data?
Would appreciate any advice.
Thanks

falcon
[/quote]Yes there is a problem there, my best guess is that the problem is in the Package Stats page because I have the same problem there. Look at the repeats in the Satatistics page, show stats for winning numbers and everything should be ok.
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Postby stan » Wed May 06, 2009 4:12 pm

[quote=Falcon:1241521649]
In my attachment I have loaded a draw history as a package and selected a line at random and where the numbers repeating are shown in the highlite eg 2,15 & 31. These numbers presumably have repeated from within the last for draws ie Repeated[4], but in the last 4 draws which I have coloured pale blue there is not one occasion where these numbers have previously appeared.
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loading past winning numbers into the package does not maintain their draw dates. thus the tickets are degrade to ordinary tickets as if they were entered manually or from ticket generator. so 'repeated' stats aren't evaluated against previous xx tickets in the package (even if winning numbers were loaded into the package) but against all winning numbers from your database.
if you're interested in 'repeated' stats for past winning numbers you need to go statistics - winning numbers table
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Postby Falcon » Thu May 07, 2009 9:25 am

Stan,

Many thanks for your response but it does invite some further questions.

What then is that data under the Repeated[xx] columns in the Package Statistics panel?

And I wonder why one might look at Repeated[xx] data in their package? To me the way Padawan and Carbob have used this data is exactly the way it should seem to be used ie to analyse past draws for repeats etc and what ever information the history might throw up. Perhaps these columns could be greyed out to prevent one from trying to use them when the package is loaded from the draw history. As you advise the correct information on Repeated[xx] can be found at the winning numbers statistics page. (Thanks for that pointer.)

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Postby stan » Thu May 07, 2009 2:43 pm

[quote=Falcon]
What then is that data under the Repeated[xx] columns in the Package Statistics panel?
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it shows repeated numbers from xx latest draws
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