Creating Matrix wheels with win guarantee

Creating Matrix wheels with win guarantee

Postby Alcymart » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:25 am

Ok, here is what I have been trying to do for the last week, and it is to try and create a matrix wheel, also known as a Serotic wheel named after Robert Serotic an ex Jackpot winner who invented this type of wheel. Some also call it a matrix wheel. Here is what I would like to do.

A matrix wheel is one where you are guaranteed the jackpot if 6 numbers are drawn from a series of 9 to 49 numbers you choose in the case of a 6/49.

A Serotic or matrix wheel uses pairs and triplets to form individual combinations. All the tools are in Expert Lotto, but how do I do this step by step?

I am trying to acheive this with a 6/49 lottery. So it would be a 2x2x2 matrix. That means if any three pairs match 6 winning numbers irrespective of the amount of numbers you choose, you win the jackpot guaranteed! Triplets would take 2 of them as 3+3=6.

I know how to generate combinations with x amount of chosen numbers but how do I use the optimizer to cover pairs , triplets, and quads for Keno type games.

I would need step by step instructions on how to do this with Expert Lotto. It greatly reduces the amount of tickets. Bottom line is you can choose 12 numbers and only would get 38 combinations. It reduces dramatically the number of tickets while still retaining the win guarantee if 6 numbers that are drawn are part of the 12, 20 or 30 numbers you choose. Like I said, Expert Lotto has everything to do this I am sure but how and what tools and options do I choose to acheive this and how to go about acheiving this? It may be that I am new to Expert Lotto and learning, but I cannot figure out this one. If Expert lotto does this for me and others, it can only be the best lotto software in the world.
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Postby stan » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:45 am

did you try the minimizer filter? just generate all combinations from the given range of numbers and choose win guarantee in the minimizer filter window. the resulting wheel won't be a world record one with regards to the number of combinations but the win guarantee will be valid.
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Creating Matrix wheels with win guarantee

Postby Alcymart » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:50 am

Yes, and that's where I gut stuck. Let me give you an example. Let's say I choose 20 numbers: 1-3-7-8-16-18-24-25-29-32-37-40-41-42-43-44-45-46-48-49.

Numbers drawn were let's say 1-16-32-42-48-49. Since I got 6 right, I would win the jackpot. That of course would depend on if I choose the correct pairs that came out such as pairs 1-16,32-42,48-49 or it could have been pairs 1-32,16-42,32-49.

I did a test with another program but it's cumbersome to acheive what I want and takes weeks. Something tells me that your software can do this with a few simple steps much faster.. am I right?

The test was to output all combinations with 20 numbers I chose. I did this with Expert Lotto, no problem there. I then filtered groups of 10 pairs out of the 20 numbers. I was left with 120 combinations with guarantee that if I hit 6 numbers in the 20, I get the jackpot.... if my pairs I chose are part of the pairs that came out of course! I would chose my pairs with the most overdue of course. These stats are available in Expert Lotto so that's a big plus!

However I am not sure how to acheive all this above using only Expert Lotto. I thought that it may have something to do with the pairs optimizing filter. Does it, or can I do this in some other way? My hopes are high on this and would love to do this with Expert Lotto.
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Postby stan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:19 am

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Yes, and that's where I gut stuck. Let me give you an example. Let's say I choose 20 numbers: 1-3-7-8-16-18-24-25-29-32-37-40-41-42-43-44-45-46-48-49.
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generate a full wheel from 20 numbers, swap numbers 1 to 20 with numbers above and then run the minimizer for 20 numbers (and enter the win guarantee you're looking for). you'll have to swap the numbers on the ticket panel in the minimizer window again.
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Need baby steps...

Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:00 pm

Can you give me step by step instructions. I generated all combinations for 20 numbers and then what do we select in the swap window? I tried a few things but always end up with what I wasn't expecting. Perhaps it's the simple fact that not knowing what the swap filter does is enough to throw me off ground. Step by step baby steps is what I need for this. You do describe it well, but I am doing something wrong still. Sorry, but I am still trying to get a hang of all the superb options in Expert Lotto.

Thanks for your support!
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Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:45 pm

I think I might have figured it out, however the guarantee goes up only to x/5. Is there a plan to make it go up to 6/6?
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Postby stan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:43 pm

the minimizer allows up to 5/6, guarantee to have 6 winning numbers when the 6 winning numbers are hit means a full wheel, doesn't it?
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Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:49 pm

I sent you at your support e-mail what I want to acheive exactly. Perhaps I didn't explain myself right.
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Postby stan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:52 pm

yes, i read your email. but i don't know how those wheels are constructed so i don't know if expert lotto can create them as well.
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Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:57 pm

Ok, I see. Expert Lotto has so many options that I thought that maybe it could do this. Thanks for the great Software!
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Matrix (Serotic) Wheels

Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:21 pm

A matrix wheel will allow playing with MANY more numbers in much LESS combinations. These wheels can be used only with picking an even amount of numbers, and will consider each 2 numbers as one PAIR to be played with another 2 different PAIRS (to form 6 numbers draw). This will guarantee a 6 from 6 prize, in case the 3 required pairs are included among the list of actually playing pairs.

These wheels were introduced by Robert Serotic where the name Serotic wheels.

Example:

In the first step - the user should pick an EVEN group of numbers to play with.
In the second step - the user should pick the specific desired pairs to play with from within the first step's picked numbers (one pair = any conjunction of 2 different numbers, while each individual NUMBER must be used only once within the entire played pairs).

For example, let's say we want to play with 12 numbers (an even group of numbers)
the numbers we've picked in an ascending order are:

02,06,07,09,11,14,19,22,24,27,28,33

now we should pick 6 individual pairs from the above 12 numbers, so let's say these are the 6 individual pairs we've picked:

02&22
06&33
07&28
09&24
11&14
19&27

so the conjunctions / actual ascending order combinations will be:

02&22,06&33,07&28 / 02 06 07 22 28 33
02&22,06&33,09&24 / 02 06 09 22 24 33
02&22,06&33,11&14 / 02 06 11 14 22 33
02&22,06&33,19&27 / 02 06 19 22 27 33
02&22,07&28,09&24 / 02 07 09 22 24 28
02&22,07&28,11&14 / 02 07 11 14 22 28
02&22,07&28,19&27 / 02 07 19 22 27 28
02&22,09&24,11&14 / 02 09 11 14 22 24
02&22,09&24,19&27 / 02 09 19 22 24 27
02&22,11&14,19&27 / 02 11 14 19 22 27
06&33,07&28,09&24 / 06 07 09 24 28 33
06&33,07&28,11&14 / 06 07 11 14 28 33
06&33,07&28,19&27 / 06 07 19 27 28 33
06&33,09&24,11&14 / 06 09 11 14 24 33
06&33,09&24,19&27 / 06 09 19 24 27 33
06&33,11&14,19&27 / 06 11 14 19 27 33
07&28,09&24,11&14 / 07 09 11 14 24 28
07&28,09&24,19&27 / 07 09 19 24 27 28
07&28,11&14,19&27 / 07 11 14 19 27 28
09&24,11&14,19&27 / 09 11 14 19 24 27
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Postby stan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:41 pm

ok, i see what you mean now.
unfortunatelly expert lotto does not support that. you can filter for successive pairs only (1&2, 2&3, 3&4, ...)

but there's an item on my todo list to invoke filters from stats tables (i.e. select combinations you (don't) want in your tickets and filter them). then you'll be able to create such a wheel from stats easily.
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Postby Alcymart » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:31 pm

Thank You, I will be looking forward to this. Serotic wheels are the new wave of wheels coming in the future so I am happy to hear it will be possible in a future build.

Thanks for your great support on this complex issue. I beleive that Expert Lotto is and will become the absolute best Lottery software in the future while still retaining it's simplicity of use. If there is a Lottery software that can increase our odds of winning at the Lotto, it's Expert Lotto hands down! The WN feature is awesome, I love it!
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Postby PadawanLotto » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:47 pm

The way I see it, if all 6 numbers were drawn out of the numbers you played but, none of the pairs hit together you will have at least 3 number matches in your combinations.
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Postby Trust » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:24 pm

Hi,Alcymart!

I think you can make this Serotic or pair wheels this way:
Making a 12 number (6pairs) wheel:First load the full package
of your lottery-then go to filter Match Numbers and select
all numbers not included in your wheel.
Set match to Leave 0-Now we have only the numbers included
in the wheel in the package.Then you have to make a group filter,
go to Groups-Add new-select match numbers filter and check
the first pair (match 2 Leave) Next add new again and use the same
pair but set match to 0 and Leave.Continue until all your pairs are
set up this way.Save the group filter and set the minimum(At Least to
the same as the number of pairs in the wheel (in this case 6)

This should work for any 6-pick lottery.
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