Anybody on Difference in Columns

Anybody on Difference in Columns

Postby jimbo » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:44 pm

I'm getting pretty good results using WNH Diff in columns.

Using notes on what to set at.
Just looking for what to set columns at. the +- i'm ok with.

Is there a chart or some other info to go by to set?????

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Postby stan » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:35 pm

you can find differences charts under 'history chart' tab.
what kind of info would you like to see in the next version?
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Postby jimbo » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:03 pm

Just me, but i need something that

if at most is +-15 or 14 or 13

i can view how many winning nos hit
if i used 1-6 or 1-5 or 4-6 columns

not using at least x to x columns must pass.

just using the diff in columns
at the moment, if i use say 1-6, i go and check winnings to see if the winning ticket is left after filtering.

then i change it to say 4-6 and go back and check. a chart with say all the possible differences showing, 11-11 down to 1-2 and show if a third or fourth prize hit with the setting.
etc, if 1-4 show 10 fourth prize hits out of 20
and 10 to 9 shows 2. which setting do you think i'd play?

then i could zero in on the best span area, 1-5 to 2-4 may be where i could win most of the time. who knows.

at the moment i'm importing a 2800 ticket package and using a 1-4 or 4-6
and filtering it to around 300 to 500 tickets with the ticket i'm looking for still there.
then using best tickets to 60 to 100 and its still there.

so far it has worked 4 days in a row,but not everyday 1-4 works, but pretty darn close, it seems to be in that area though. around 1-4 to 6-6 at
-13 to 13 to -15 to 15

couple more days with it at 1 to 4 showing the winning ticket and i'm going to give it a shot

maybe the idea may work into something. right now i chart all the differences and put an x if the winning ticket showed up with that setting.

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Postby stan » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:23 pm

sorry but you've lost me:)
can you pls elaborate a bit and/or attach some pictures of what you'd like to see? you can put it into an email if it's too complicate to describe here
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Postby jimbo » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:47 pm

stan

ok. will try some pic, but let me try this.
using tickets in package
i already know it contains a winning ticket.

the diff in columns in the filter, WNHistory= Sums filter
if i could have a chart with all the xx to xx columns. showing what would have won if 1-2-3-4-5 was drawn using what ever diff in columns as a filter

diff in columns third prize hits fourth prize hit
10-9 0 0
9-8 0 0
8-7 0 0
1-5 10 1
2-5 7 1
3-5 6 1
5-5 6 1
etc
say i use 1-5 as a diff in columns and filter to leave
i'm left with 500 tickets
then i have to go to Win Test and check to see if setting 1-5 left the winner there.

if not, then i go back to WNH sum, change diff in columns to 2-5 leave and filter.
then go back to Win Test, check to see if winner there.

and keep repeating with diff in columns settings till i find the setting that leaves a winner.

if it was possible to list all or some of the diff in column settings in a chart, using the drawn nos that i enter and check it with package for a winner. it could tell me which diff in columns setting used resulted in leaving a winning ticket.

how am i doing.

looks like 1-5 produces the best.

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Postby PadawanLotto » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:40 am

Nice, you say The Difference in 1 to 5 columns but, what is the is at most ?? to ??
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Postby jimbo » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:58 am

Juat been sticking with -13 to 13 and -12 to 12 and -15 to 15
anymore and i'd never get outside.

1-5 2-5 3-5 4-5 5-5 with at most with all of the above settings left me with the winning ticket 4 days in a row, with 2800 ticket package it filtered it to 400 t0 600.
then it shifted to 8-11 area and 8-10 with xx to xx above.
then last nite it shifted again to 1-6 2-6 3-6 to 6-6 etc
so far it seems that when i find win in one, say 3-6, the whole series of diff it will hit in, except for 11-11. 9=11 on down. seems to be the best in this area.
now i f i could figure out a way to know when to play a certain difference in columns, i know i'd win some moola.

if you play around with it and come up with anything, i'm sticking with it. it leaves me a playable amount where best tickets gets in down to 50 and works darn near all the time


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Postby jimbo » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:30 pm

not sure if its the best way. seems to be for now and its simple so i can get outside.

I load my winning nos database.
In WNHoistory filter, i look up min & max. lock them in for the day.
empty
then i load my package
i've tried =-10 up to 30 in the min max sum columns, just didnt get the results i like.

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Postby PadawanLotto » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:53 pm

If you can get a 2800 ticket package with 4 or more winning numbers in the same combination you're doing real good to start.

Good Luck on your strategy!
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Postby stan » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm

so i'm getting this right you want to run wn history filter with various settings and then find out how many hits you'd get for a given winning ticket for each input settings.

1. generate all combinations
2. apply a filter with settings X(1)
3. calculate 'package win test' for ticket 1,2,3,4,5,6
4. repeat the above for settings X(n+1)
5. show table:

[m]
settings: X(1) | X(2) | X(3)
win results: match 4=0 | match 4=2 | match 4=1
match 3=3 | match 3-17 | match 3 =5
[/m]

is that correct?
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Postby jimbo » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:20 pm

yes-that sounds right.
last nite i filtered package with settings

2800 tickey package

diff in columns 7 to 7
is at most -12 to 12
it showed i had winning ticket in a package that left 664

then i changed it to
the diff in columns 5 to 5
-12 to 12
no winning ticket

to test all the different settings i have to keep changing and going back to winning tickets and enter in the ticket to test,

dont know if you think its a chart worth investigating but, i'm getting some results that look like it may help zeroing in on an area that repeats pretty good.

its not a predictor, its actually testing whats already happened.

let me know what you think
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Postby stan » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:47 pm

well, i think it'll be better to implement some sort of an 'extended' filter back-tester than to limit this functionality to wnh differences only.
but it won't save too much time as there are a lot of calculations to execute to get this kind of info
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Postby jimbo » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:48 am

judging by what i was doing to get the info, i can imagine what it would take to program.

it was worth a shot. i'll keep ya posted if it does anything.

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Postby stan » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:53 am

[quote=jimbo:1252118882]
judging by what i was doing to get the info, i can imagine what it would take to program.
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just to make it clear - it's not that difficult to add this kind of feature to expert lotto v5, the only problem is that running this feature (when/if it is implemented) will take same time...
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