Simulation Shock!

[PadawanLotto]

[quote=stan]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
I haven't ever looked into pairs, triplets, and I don't have the quads plugin.
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I installed quads plugin and found it interesting and found that I can't run it twice without clearing memory. Interesting that there are 35 combinations for each quad and 5 quads for each drawing. More research :finger:
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what do you mean by 'clearing memory'?
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Either freeing up memory at the bottom right of the screen or restarting EL.

[stan]

[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=stan]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
I haven't ever looked into pairs, triplets, and I don't have the quads plugin.
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I installed quads plugin and found it interesting and found that I can't run it twice without clearing memory. Interesting that there are 35 combinations for each quad and 5 quads for each drawing. More research :finger:
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what do you mean by 'clearing memory'?
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Either freeing up memory at the bottom right of the screen or restarting EL.
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ok, that's alright then. once you sort out the problem with -Xmx switch you shouldn't need this anymore

[PadawanLotto]

Another thing that I did to save memory was to go into statistics options and turn off some of the stats tables that I don't use.

[PadawanLotto]

[quote=CSenior]
CARBOB, No you are right. There are many combos and I have said this before but creating a filter to keep all combinations that end with one ticket from columns -5,-6, & -7 will yield the jackpot ticket at an 85% success rate which then will need further filtering using the Statistics tab and other filters. Now what I have found is combinations from column -5 are < -6 and -6 are < -7. But the most interesting of all is column -4 which usually shows a single jackpot ticket combination (with fewer combinations) about once a month. Doing any of these workouts to flush out the single ticket in any column manually is very time consuming. Hopefully this summer I plan to dedicate a full week (my vacation) to doing some manual workouts. If you can help with an excel workout I would be very appreciative. Thanks!
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Prefilter the full package before running through the column segments may save having to go all the way to -6 or -7. You are still going to have a lot of combinations but you have already filtered for the commons. You would be able to choose the single segment combinations for columns 0 thru -4 and use all of the segment combinations left in column -5.
I still think that some sort of number reduction strategy is a good idea if I could come up with one.

[CSenior]

[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=CSenior]
CARBOB, No you are right. There are many combos and I have said this before but creating a filter to keep all combinations that end with one ticket from columns -5,-6, & -7 will yield the jackpot ticket at an 85% success rate which then will need further filtering using the Statistics tab and other filters. Now what I have found is combinations from column -5 are < -6 and -6 are < -7. But the most interesting of all is column -4 which usually shows a single jackpot ticket combination (with fewer combinations) about once a month. Doing any of these workouts to flush out the single ticket in any column manually is very time consuming. Hopefully this summer I plan to dedicate a full week (my vacation) to doing some manual workouts. If you can help with an excel workout I would be very appreciative. Thanks!
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Prefilter the full package before running through the column segments may save having to go all the way to -6 or -7. You are still going to have a lot of combinations but you have already filtered for the commons. You would be able to choose the single segment combinations for columns 0 thru -4 and use all of the segment combinations left in column -5.
I still think that some sort of number reduction strategy is a good idea if I could come up with one.
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Thanks PadawanLotto! Sometimes I am like a horse with blinders on and see only one path! LOL!

[Clem9403]

I'm with you Padawan. Number reduction is the key. I too have been working on trying to come up with a strategy to do this.

[PadawanLotto]

I tried prefiltering before making segment choices and it seems to work for odd/even, sum range, successive numbers but not stddev. I made segment choices till I got down to 4 to 10 combinations in -4 or -5 and checked the package stats and found combinations that didn't meet the pre-set stddev range. I know some don't like to use the stddev but I do sometimes.

[alland]

[quote=CSenior:1205102877]
CARBOB~ Thanks! Yes, I continue to study this as TAX and myself think it is the most promising way to filter aggressively while maintaining the jackpot!

In my studies for 5/36 with default segments (6/12) it continues to produce a single jackpot ticket in columns -5, -6, & -7 with an 85% success rate.

Now I only hope Stan can program this on the backend of EL someday so we all will have great 's

CSenior
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would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7

[CSenior]

[quote=alland]
[quote=CSenior:1205102877]
CARBOB~ Thanks! Yes, I continue to study this as TAX and myself think it is the most promising way to filter aggressively while maintaining the jackpot!

In my studies for 5/36 with default segments (6/12) it continues to produce a single jackpot ticket in columns -5, -6, & -7 with an 85% success rate.

Now I only hope Stan can program this on the backend of EL someday so we all will have great 's

CSenior
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would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7
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If you change the default to something like 7/7 yes is will push out your columns to probably -9 or -10 for a single ticket.

[PadawanLotto]

[quote=alland]
would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7
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I wouldn't think it would matter what the segment defaults are set at as far as the jackpot ticket falling within -5, -6, and -7.

[alland]

[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=alland]
would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7
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I wouldn't think it would matter what the segment defaults are set at as far as the jackpot ticket falling within -5, -6, and -7.
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how can you tell, i am running on others "hearsay" , how can i see for myself

[PadawanLotto]

[quote=alland]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=alland]
would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7
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I wouldn't think it would matter what the segment defaults are set at as far as the jackpot ticket falling within -5, -6, and -7.
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how can you tell, i am running on others "hearsay" , how can i see for myself
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Hours and hours of back testing! I wouldn't use a segment default of 7/7 or 10/10 as you create a false 0 in your segments and this will result in more combinations. Make a copy of the past drawn segment patterns with one setting, copy the past drawn segments with another setting and so on then start testing them out.

[alland]

[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=alland]
[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=alland]
would the default segment affect where the jackpot ticket falls,in columns -5, -6, & -7
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I wouldn't think it would matter what the segment defaults are set at as far as the jackpot ticket falling within -5, -6, and -7.
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how can you tell, i am running on others "hearsay" , how can i see for myself
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Hours and hours of back testing! I wouldn't use a segment default of 7/7 or 10/10 as you create a false 0 in your segments and this will result in more combinations. Make a copy of the past drawn segment patterns with one setting, copy the past drawn segments with another setting and so on then start testing them out.
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i have been testing 7/7 because there are less segments to choose from , though i do understand what you are saying and will probaly revert back to 6/12 or another setting that splits evenly.

could you give me a brief description of how to back test to find where jackpot tickets fall. i dont mind doing the work , just dont know how to do it.

[PadawanLotto]

Save a copy of the past drawings segment patterns and then skip the last drawing. Go into the Statistics page and load a full package and calculate stats for WNH Segments. Starting with column 0 highlight the segment for column 0 from the last drawing and click filter Leave calculate stats and do the same thing for columns -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, and -7 if you even get that far.

[alland]

[quote=PadawanLotto]
Save a copy of the past drawings segment patterns and then skip the last drawing. Go into the Statistics page and load a full package and calculate stats for WNH Segments. Starting with column 0 highlight the segment for column 0 from the last drawing and click filter Leave calculate stats and do the same thing for columns -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, and -7 if you even get that far.
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cheers , i will get started.
better get another beer!!