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Question About Numbers Orders Backtest Results

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:19 pm
by CARBOB
Col 0, Pos 6; I did a preview and results showed 220 hits for database. Did a backtest, results show 183 hits. Can/will someone explain why I got the difference?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:20 pm
by CARBOB
Backtest results

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:57 am
by CSenior
[quote=CARBOB]
Col 0, Pos 6; I did a preview and results showed 220 hits for database. Did a backtest, results show 183 hits. Can/will someone explain why I got the difference?
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Carbob~ The reason you are not looking at it correctly is you need to treat each position as a part of a whole which in this case the whole would be column 0. Since you are back testing 900 tickets then your average would be 150 hits per each column (900/6=150). Now if you back test each position from 0-6 and add up the total of hits at each position your hits from 0-6 positions should add up too 900.

From your pics it seems that you are only loading 900 tickets... Are these past winning tickets or just 900 random tickets?

If they are past winnings tickets then your back test and package should match at every position. If not, then it would not match and what you have shown is correct.

I hope I explained clearly.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:39 am
by Joe
Here is the plug-in, download the jar file and replace the old one, bugs fixed and now you can able to use this filter for pick 6 and less than, give a try and let me know if any corrections, thanks

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:58 am
by daniel
[quote=Joe]
Here is the plug-in, download the jar file and replace the old one, bugs fixed and now you can able to use this filter for pick 6 and less than, give a try and let me know if any corrections, thanks
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Hi Joe,
No difference. It still shows Version 101, the same as the previous plug-in. :#:
daniel

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:12 am
by Da80th
[quote=daniel]
[quote=Joe]
Here is the plug-in, download the jar file and replace the old one, bugs fixed and now you can able to use this filter for pick 6 and less than, give a try and let me know if any corrections, thanks
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Hi Joe,
No difference. It still shows Version 101, the same as the previous plug-in. :#:
daniel
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hi Joe,

It seem to be working for Pick 4 and 5/39 lotto game this time, thanks for fixing the bugs.

Daniel,

the version 1.0.1 same as old one but this time it works fine for 5/39 game. May be Joe forgot to changed the version #.


Thanks again Joe,

Da80th

Da80th

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:20 am
by daniel
[quote=Da80th]
Daniel,

the version 1.0.1 same as old one but this time it works fine for 5/39 game. May be Joe forgot to changed the version #.

Thanks again Joe,

Da80th

Da80th
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Hi Da80th,
It still does not retain position numbers in a compound filter when you exit
the program and then restart it again. :-(
daniel

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:27 am
by Joe
[quote=Da80th]It seem to be working for Pick 4 and 5/39 lotto game this time, thanks for fixing the bugs.[/quote] nice :-) [quote=Da80th]the version 1.0.1 same as old one but this time it works fine for 5/39 game. May be Joe forgot to changed the version #.[/quote] Exactly Tin, will change in next build, thanks

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:28 am
by Joe
[quote=daniel]
It still does not retain position numbers in a compound filter when you exit
the program and then restart it again. :-( [/quote] Daniel, I didnt fix this bug, it will work in next build, sorry,

Joe, Please Respond!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:46 am
by CARBOB
Thanks CSenior,they are past winning tickets. They should match, that's what puzzles me, why aren't they matching?

"If they are past winnings tickets then your back test and package should match at every position. If not, then it would not match and what you have shown is correct."



[quote=CSenior]
[quote=CARBOB]
Col 0, Pos 6; I did a preview and results showed 220 hits for database. Did a backtest, results show 183 hits. Can/will someone explain why I got the difference?
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Carbob~ The reason you are not looking at it correctly is you need to treat each position as a part of a whole which in this case the whole would be column 0. Since you are back testing 900 tickets then your average would be 150 hits per each column (900/6=150). Now if you back test each position from 0-6 and add up the total of hits at each position your hits from 0-6 positions should add up too 900.

From your pics it seems that you are only loading 900 tickets... Are these past winning tickets or just 900 random tickets?

If they are past winnings tickets then your back test and package should match at every position. If not, then it would not match and what you have shown is correct.

I hope I explained clearly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:00 am
by Joe
Bob, please check the passed numbers with your settings, lets see, in first winning combinations, the 6th Number 33 would be at the last in column 0, and the second winning combination, the 6th Number 52 would be at the last in column, but in the next winning combination, the 6th number 45 would not be at the last position in column 0 because of your setting sixth position should be at the last in order in column 0, Hope this is clear, check your winning numbers, and test more, let me know if this is now clear, thanks

Combinations for 5/XX Numbers Order

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:27 pm
by CARBOB
1,2,3,4,5 2,1,3,4,5 3,1,2,4,5 4,1,2,3,5 5,1,2,3,4
1,2,3,5,4 2,1,3,5,4 3,1,2,5,4 4,1,2,5,3 5,1,2,4,3
1,2,4,3,5 2,1,4,3,5 3,1,4,2,5 4,1,3,2,5 5,1,3,2,4
1,2,4,5,3 2,1,4,5,3 3,1,4,5,2 4,1,3,5,2 5,1,3,4,2
1,2,5,3,4 2,1,5,3,4 3,1,5,2,4 4,1,5,2,3 5,1,4,2,3
1,2,5,4,3 2,1,5,4,3 3,1,5,4,2 4,1,5,3,2 5,1,4,3,2
1,3,2,4,5 2,3,1,4,5 3,2,1,4,5 4,2,1,3,5 5,2,1,3,4
1,3,2,5,4 2,3,1,5,4 3,2,1,5,4 4,2,1,5,3 5,2,1,4,3
1,3,4,2,5 2,3,4,1,5 3,2,4,1,5 4,2,3,1,5 5,2,3,1,4
1,3,4,5,2 2,3,4,5,1 3,2,4,5,1 4,2,3,5,1 5,2,3,4,1
1,3,5,2,4 2,3,5,1,4 3,2,5,1,4 4,2,5,1,3 5,2,4,1,3
1,3,5,4,2 2,3,5,4,1 3,2,5,4,1 4,2,5,3,1 5,2,4,3,1
1,4,2,3,5 2,4,1,3,5 3,4,1,2,5 4,3,1,2,5 5,3,1,2,4
1,4,2,5,3 2,4,1,5,3 3,4,1,5,2 4,3,1,5,2 5,3,1,4,2
1,4,3,2,5 2,4,3,1,5 3,4,2,1,5 4,3,2,1,5 5,3,2,1,4
1,4,3,5,2 2,4,3,5,1 3,4,2,5,1 4,3,2,5,1 5,3,2,4,1
1,4,5,2,3 2,4,5,1,3 3,4,5,1,2 4,3,5,1,2 5,3,4,1,2
1,4,5,3,2 2,4,5,3,1 3,4,5,2,1 4,3,5,2,1 5,3,4,2,1
1,5,2,3,4 2,5,1,3,4 3,5,1,2,4 4,5,1,2,3 5,4,1,2,3
1,5,2,4,3 2,5,1,4,3 3,5,1,4,2 4,5,1,3,2 5,4,1,3,2
1,5,3,2,4 2,5,3,1,4 3,5,2,1,4 4,5,2,1,3 5,4,2,1,3
1,5,3,4,2 2,5,3,4,1 3,5,2,4,1 4,5,2,3,1 5,4,2,3,1
1,5,4,2,3 2,5,4,1,3 3,5,4,1,2 4,5,3,1,2 5,4,3,1,2
1,5,4,3,2 2,5,4,3,1 3,5,4,2,1 4,5,3,2,1 5,4,3,2,1

Joe, Please Respond!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:46 pm
by CARBOB
Joe, why not the 45? It's in the 6th Position.

[quote=Joe]
Bob, please check the passed numbers with your settings, lets see, in first winning combinations, the 6th Number 33 would be at the last in column 0, and the second winning combination, the 6th Number 52 would be at the last in column, but in the next winning combination, the 6th number 45 would not be at the last position in column 0 because of your setting sixth position should be at the last in order in column 0, Hope this is clear, check your winning numbers, and test more, let me know if this is now clear, thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:33 pm
by Joe
[quote=CARBOB]
Joe, why not the 45? It's in the 6th Position.

[quote=Joe]
Bob, please check the passed numbers with your settings, lets see, in first winning combinations, the 6th Number 33 would be at the last in column 0, and the second winning combination, the 6th Number 52 would be at the last in column, but in the next winning combination, the 6th number 45 would not be at the last position in column 0 because of your setting sixth position should be at the last in order in column 0, Hope this is clear, check your winning numbers, and test more, let me know if this is now clear, thanks
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Bob, please skip the 3rd winning combination which has 45 at the 6th position, and go to History differences tag, update and see the Column 0, and highlight the winning combination, and see where the Number 45(i,e 6th position) is, I hope it would not be at last position of the Winning combination's order in Column 0, and post the picture of the Column 0 with highlighting winning combination. I will check and make it clear, thanks

Thanks Joe For your Help!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:56 pm
by CARBOB
[quote=Joe]
[quote=CARBOB]
Joe, why not the 45? It's in the 6th Position.

[quote=Joe]
Bob, please check the passed numbers with your settings, lets see, in first winning combinations, the 6th Number 33 would be at the last in column 0, and the second winning combination, the 6th Number 52 would be at the last in column, but in the next winning combination, the 6th number 45 would not be at the last position in column 0 because of your setting sixth position should be at the last in order in column 0, Hope this is clear, check your winning numbers, and test more, let me know if this is now clear, thanks
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Bob, please skip the 3rd winning combination which has 45 at the 6th position, and go to History differences tag, update and see the Column 0, and highlight the winning combination, and see where the Number 45(i,e 6th position) is, I hope it would not be at last position of the Winning combination's order in Column 0, and post the picture of the Column 0 with highlighting winning combination. I will check and make it clear, thanks
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Is this the correct image? I have a feeling my understanding of the way this filter works, is very, very cloudy!!!