Serotic Wheels in EL

Postby Savage_Rottweiler » Tue May 12, 2009 12:53 am

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Serotic wheels

Postby Alcymart » Tue May 12, 2009 1:20 am

For all those who want to create serotic wheels in EL using pairs, you all have to choose at least 3 to 3 in each ticket and if you use Triplets, set on at least 2 to 2 in each ticket. If you have questions, just ask and I'll reply to you...

To demonstrate the power of serotic wheels, a 48 number or all the barrel except for 1 number using triplets yields only 120 tickets if you did everything right.

The guarantee is that you win the Jackpot if you have choosen just 2 triplets that will be drawn.

Here is a 48 number wheel made with EL choosing most overdue triplets in my lotto 6/49 and how it looks..

First 16 most overdue triplets (16x3=48) where every number appears only once.
11-38-42
12-17-31
08-33-34
04-14-27
10-15-48
28-41-46
19-37-47
05-43-44
13-26-35
23-24-49
09-18-40
06-16-29
03-21-36
01-02-39
25-30-45
07-20-22

Now we'll ask EL to select at least 2 Triplets and Not more than 2 Triplets to form a ticket, and it yields 120 lines exactly...

01 02 03 21 36 39
01 02 04 14 27 39
01 02 05 39 43 44
01 02 06 16 29 39
01 02 07 20 22 39
01 02 08 33 34 39
01 02 09 18 39 40
01 02 10 15 39 48
01 02 11 38 39 42
01 02 12 17 31 39
01 02 13 26 35 39
01 02 19 37 39 47
01 02 23 24 39 49
01 02 25 30 39 45
01 02 28 39 41 46
03 04 14 21 27 36
03 05 21 36 43 44
03 06 16 21 29 36
03 07 20 21 22 36
03 08 21 33 34 36
03 09 18 21 36 40
03 10 15 21 36 48
03 11 21 36 38 42
03 12 17 21 31 36
03 13 21 26 35 36
03 19 21 36 37 47
03 21 23 24 36 49
03 21 25 30 36 45
03 21 28 36 41 46
04 05 14 27 43 44
04 06 14 16 27 29
04 07 14 20 22 27
04 08 14 27 33 34
04 09 14 18 27 40
04 10 14 15 27 48
04 11 14 27 38 42
04 12 14 17 27 31
04 13 14 26 27 35
04 14 19 27 37 47
04 14 23 24 27 49
04 14 25 27 30 45
04 14 27 28 41 46
05 06 16 29 43 44
05 07 20 22 43 44
05 08 33 34 43 44
05 09 18 40 43 44
05 10 15 43 44 48
05 11 38 42 43 44
05 12 17 31 43 44
05 13 26 35 43 44
05 19 37 43 44 47
05 23 24 43 44 49
05 25 30 43 44 45
05 28 41 43 44 46
06 07 16 20 22 29
06 08 16 29 33 34
06 09 16 18 29 40
06 10 15 16 29 48
06 11 16 29 38 42
06 12 16 17 29 31
06 13 16 26 29 35
06 16 19 29 37 47
06 16 23 24 29 49
06 16 25 29 30 45
06 16 28 29 41 46
07 08 20 22 33 34
07 09 18 20 22 40
07 10 15 20 22 48
07 11 20 22 38 42
07 12 17 20 22 31
07 13 20 22 26 35
07 19 20 22 37 47
07 20 22 23 24 49
07 20 22 25 30 45
07 20 22 28 41 46
08 09 18 33 34 40
08 10 15 33 34 48
08 11 33 34 38 42
08 12 17 31 33 34
08 13 26 33 34 35
08 19 33 34 37 47
08 23 24 33 34 49
08 25 30 33 34 45
08 28 33 34 41 46
09 10 15 18 40 48
09 11 18 38 40 42
09 12 17 18 31 40
09 13 18 26 35 40
09 18 19 37 40 47
09 18 23 24 40 49
09 18 25 30 40 45
09 18 28 40 41 46
10 11 15 38 42 48
10 12 15 17 31 48
10 13 15 26 35 48
10 15 19 37 47 48
10 15 23 24 48 49
10 15 25 30 45 48
10 15 28 41 46 48
11 12 17 31 38 42
11 13 26 35 38 42
11 19 37 38 42 47
11 23 24 38 42 49
11 25 30 38 42 45
11 28 38 41 42 46
12 13 17 26 31 35
12 17 19 31 37 47
12 17 23 24 31 49
12 17 25 30 31 45
12 17 28 31 41 46
13 19 26 35 37 47
13 23 24 26 35 49
13 25 26 30 35 45
13 26 28 35 41 46
19 23 24 37 47 49
19 25 30 37 45 47
19 28 37 41 46 47
23 24 25 30 45 49
23 24 28 41 46 49
25 28 30 41 45 46

You are guaranteed the jackpot if just 2 triplets are drawn from the initial 16 chosen! Thats how Mr Serotic really did it!
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Postby CARBOB » Tue May 12, 2009 8:21 pm

[quote=Alcymart]
For all those who want to create serotic wheels in EL using pairs, you all have to choose at least 3 to 3 in each ticket and if you use Triplets, set on at least 2 to 2 in each ticket. If you have questions, just ask and I'll reply to you...

To demonstrate the power of serotic wheels, a 48 number or all the barrel except for 1 number using triplets yields only 120 tickets if you did everything right.

The guarantee is that you win the Jackpot if you have choosen just 2 triplets that will be drawn.

Here is a 48 number wheel made with EL choosing most overdue triplets in my lotto 6/49 and how it looks..

First 16 most overdue triplets (16x3=48) where every number appears only once.
11-38-42
12-17-31
08-33-34
04-14-27
10-15-48
28-41-46
19-37-47
05-43-44
13-26-35
23-24-49
09-18-40
06-16-29
03-21-36
01-02-39
25-30-45
07-20-22

Now we'll ask EL to select at least 2 Triplets and Not more than 2 Triplets to form a ticket, and it yields 120 lines exactly...

01 02 03 21 36 39
01 02 04 14 27 39
01 02 05 39 43 44
01 02 06 16 29 39
01 02 07 20 22 39
01 02 08 33 34 39
01 02 09 18 39 40
01 02 10 15 39 48
01 02 11 38 39 42
01 02 12 17 31 39
01 02 13 26 35 39
01 02 19 37 39 47
01 02 23 24 39 49
01 02 25 30 39 45
01 02 28 39 41 46
03 04 14 21 27 36
03 05 21 36 43 44
03 06 16 21 29 36
03 07 20 21 22 36
03 08 21 33 34 36
03 09 18 21 36 40
03 10 15 21 36 48
03 11 21 36 38 42
03 12 17 21 31 36
03 13 21 26 35 36
03 19 21 36 37 47
03 21 23 24 36 49
03 21 25 30 36 45
03 21 28 36 41 46
04 05 14 27 43 44
04 06 14 16 27 29
04 07 14 20 22 27
04 08 14 27 33 34
04 09 14 18 27 40
04 10 14 15 27 48
04 11 14 27 38 42
04 12 14 17 27 31
04 13 14 26 27 35
04 14 19 27 37 47
04 14 23 24 27 49
04 14 25 27 30 45
04 14 27 28 41 46
05 06 16 29 43 44
05 07 20 22 43 44
05 08 33 34 43 44
05 09 18 40 43 44
05 10 15 43 44 48
05 11 38 42 43 44
05 12 17 31 43 44
05 13 26 35 43 44
05 19 37 43 44 47
05 23 24 43 44 49
05 25 30 43 44 45
05 28 41 43 44 46
06 07 16 20 22 29
06 08 16 29 33 34
06 09 16 18 29 40
06 10 15 16 29 48
06 11 16 29 38 42
06 12 16 17 29 31
06 13 16 26 29 35
06 16 19 29 37 47
06 16 23 24 29 49
06 16 25 29 30 45
06 16 28 29 41 46
07 08 20 22 33 34
07 09 18 20 22 40
07 10 15 20 22 48
07 11 20 22 38 42
07 12 17 20 22 31
07 13 20 22 26 35
07 19 20 22 37 47
07 20 22 23 24 49
07 20 22 25 30 45
07 20 22 28 41 46
08 09 18 33 34 40
08 10 15 33 34 48
08 11 33 34 38 42
08 12 17 31 33 34
08 13 26 33 34 35
08 19 33 34 37 47
08 23 24 33 34 49
08 25 30 33 34 45
08 28 33 34 41 46
09 10 15 18 40 48
09 11 18 38 40 42
09 12 17 18 31 40
09 13 18 26 35 40
09 18 19 37 40 47
09 18 23 24 40 49
09 18 25 30 40 45
09 18 28 40 41 46
10 11 15 38 42 48
10 12 15 17 31 48
10 13 15 26 35 48
10 15 19 37 47 48
10 15 23 24 48 49
10 15 25 30 45 48
10 15 28 41 46 48
11 12 17 31 38 42
11 13 26 35 38 42
11 19 37 38 42 47
11 23 24 38 42 49
11 25 30 38 42 45
11 28 38 41 42 46
12 13 17 26 31 35
12 17 19 31 37 47
12 17 23 24 31 49
12 17 25 30 31 45
12 17 28 31 41 46
13 19 26 35 37 47
13 23 24 26 35 49
13 25 26 30 35 45
13 26 28 35 41 46
19 23 24 37 47 49
19 25 30 37 45 47
19 28 37 41 46 47
23 24 25 30 45 49
23 24 28 41 46 49
25 28 30 41 45 46

You are guaranteed the jackpot if just 2 triplets are drawn from the initial 16 chosen! Thats how Mr Serotic really did it!
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Would you please show a step-by-step on how to do this in EL. I don't understand how you can filter triplets that way, using the triplets filter.
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Postby Alcymart » Tue May 12, 2009 8:54 pm

Well first you need to Generate all combinations in your lotto. Then you go to the statistics Tab and make sure to have only winning numbers check marked and click "Calculate Stats".

Once done, select Show stats for Triplets. Now lets say you want to choose triplets with most occurrences...you would make sure to order by occurrences to make it easier for the next step. You can choose most due,by rank, strength etc... it's up to you.

As for selecting, just hold the Ctrl key while you select each triplet down the column... numbers will turn yellow as you choose them. If you choose a Triplet with let's say number 12 in it, all the 12's will turn yellow so you don't choose another triplet with a 12 in it.

Since Serotic wheels require numbers selected only once, the color code will help you out as you go down the list selecting your triplets. you can only choose full triplets... if a number is yellowed out already, you cannot choose that triplet. Numbers must all be white.

You need to go down the list until you have the required triplets you need.

So if you want to create a 12 number Serotic wheel, you will choose only 4 "complete" Triplets (4x3=12). "Complete" means that triplets must all be white. You cannot choose a Triplet that has a yellowed number in it.

Once done, you will click the big "Filter"button on the lower left side and your selected triplets will be shown.

Now if you choose Triplets, you will select at least 2 to 2 and then click OK... it will then start filtering. ( this process could take a while depending on how many triplets you choose so have patience). Trust me, its worth the wait!

Oh, if you choose Pairs, select at least 3 to 3 before filtering.

Now obviously, it will yield less tickets if you chose Triplets.

Have Fun with that Jackpot Money! ;-)
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Postby CARBOB » Tue May 12, 2009 9:13 pm

[quote=Alcymart]
Well first you need to Generate all combinations in your lotto. Then you go to the statistics Tab and make sure to have only winning numbers check marked and click "Calculate Stats".

Once done, select Show stats for Triplets. Now lets say you want to choose triplets with most occurrences...you would make sure to order by occurrences to make it easier for the next step. You can choose most due,by rank, strength etc... it's up to you.

As for selecting, just hold the Ctrl key while you select each triplet down the column... numbers will turn yellow as you choose them. If you choose a Triplet with let's say number 12 in it, all the 12's will turn yellow so you don't choose another triplet with a 12 in it.

Since Serotic wheels require numbers selected only once, the color code will help you out as you go down the list selecting your triplets. you can only choose full triplets... if a number is yellowed out already, you cannot choose that triplet. Numbers must all be white.

You need to go down the list until you have the required triplets you need.

So if you want to create a 12 number Serotic wheel, you will choose only 4 "complete" Triplets (4x3=12). "Complete" means that triplets must all be white. You cannot choose a Triplet that has a yellowed number in it.

Once done, you will click the big "Filter"button on the lower left side and your selected triplets will be shown.

Now if you choose Triplets, you will select at least 2 to 2 and then click OK... it will then start filtering. ( this process could take a while depending on how many triplets you choose so have patience). Trust me, its worth the wait!

Oh, if you choose Pairs, select at least 3 to 3 before filtering.

Now obviously, it will yield less tickets if you chose Triplets.

Have Fun with that Jackpot Money! ;-)
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Thank you very much for the explanation!!
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Can This Method Be Used On 5/36 Game????

Postby CARBOB » Wed May 13, 2009 12:28 pm

How would this be done on a 5/36 game? A Play 4 game?
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Postby PadawanLotto » Wed May 13, 2009 2:39 pm

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Postby stan » Wed May 13, 2009 3:03 pm

i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
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Postby CARBOB » Wed May 13, 2009 3:54 pm

[quote=stan]
i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
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Hell of an idea, Stan. Thanks!!!
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Postby Alcymart » Wed May 13, 2009 11:04 pm

[quote=stan]
i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
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It would be great Stan...:-)
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Postby Savage_Rottweiler » Thu May 14, 2009 3:37 am

Yeah that would be great Stan..... :gun:
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Number choice?

Postby PadawanLotto » Fri May 15, 2009 6:01 pm

There are 18424 total possible triplets in a 6/49.
There are 20 possible triplets per draw.

Choosing 3 winning numbers in one set would be an amazing feat in itself, not to mention choosing 2 sets of 3 winning numbers out of 16 sets of 3.

I don't think that choosing all sets from the most due will work very well. One thing for sure is that you wouldn't want to choose 3 numbers from the last draw as one of your sets of 3 numbers. Nor would you want to choose 3 numbers from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th drawing etc. past.

The Serotic system is a neat idea but, there has to be a better way of making number choices for your 16 sets of 3 numbers.
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Postby Alcymart » Fri May 15, 2009 10:14 pm

Picking the correct Triplets is the goal obviously. If you think out of the box a bit, we can find the correct Triplets by using the WNH Filter or even Stan's Strategy.

Although Serotic wheels don't guarantee you'll win the Jackpot, they bring you much closer to it than any other wheel I know of. These wheels are not for the faint of heart, they do cost, but why not play them on paper and see if you can hit the Jackpot... you know, just for the heck. At least thats what I'm trying here.

Jackpots were won with this Triplet wheel. Whatever method you decide to choose to locate the next Triplets to be drawn, the wheel itself has done it's share and is perfect. It's up to us to find the next 2 triplets to be drawn. Sure, not an easy task especially when it comes to prediction, but we all have a better shot and better odds of picking the correct triplet than the correct 6 numbers.

I didn't say it, Padwanlotto did...Our odds are 2 in 18424 instead of 1 in 13983816!
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Postby daniel » Fri May 15, 2009 11:48 pm

[quote=stan:1242219812]
i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
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Would this produce different groups of triplets without duplicate numbers, which would change, depending on the initial triplet(s) chosen?
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Postby Clem9403 » Mon May 18, 2009 4:25 am

Has anyone ever read the book by Stefon Vandevelde? IF YOU CAN'T WIN THE LOTTERY, THEN CHANGE IT'S RULES? He has some interesting info in there.
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