Serotic Wheels in EL

Postby Alcymart » Mon May 18, 2009 8:16 am

For all I know, Stephan Vandevelde sells snake oil. Nothing we can't figure out on our own in his book...but good for you if it illuminated you Clem9403.
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Postby PadawanLotto » Mon May 18, 2009 9:28 am

[quote=Clem9403]
Has anyone ever read the book by Stefon Vandevelde? IF YOU CAN'T WIN THE LOTTERY, THEN CHANGE IT'S RULES? He has some interesting info in there.
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Never read the book but have read some things in other groups. The thing is that you still need to have a certin amount of numbers drawn out of the pool of numbers that you played to get a 2 number hit. Below is 19 lines that will produce multiple 2 number matches every drawing of a 6/49 lotto. Neat? Yeah. Practical? No!

1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
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Postby teoman » Mon May 18, 2009 10:18 am

[quote=PadawanLotto]
[quote=Clem9403]
Has anyone ever read the book by Stefon Vandevelde? IF YOU CAN'T WIN THE LOTTERY, THEN CHANGE IT'S RULES? He has some interesting info in there.
[/quote]

Never read the book but have read some things in other groups. The thing is that you still need to have a certin amount of numbers drawn out of the pool of numbers that you played to get a 2 number hit. Below is 19 lines that will produce multiple 2 number matches every drawing of a 6/49 lotto. Neat? Yeah. Practical? No!

1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
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Still two condition 2 of 6

01 08 14 23 34 47 -.- 01 07 08 14 32 33
01 14 18 31 35 36 -.- 01 07 09 14 28 47
02 04 06 40 42 46 -.- 02 15 18 34 38 45
02 04 07 21 24 40 -.- 02 17 20 21 22 38
03 10 12 13 22 25 -.- 03 11 25 27 29 42
03 12 13 16 22 38 -.- 03 12 24 25 36 40
03 12 13 22 39 45 -.- 03 25 30 31 37 39
05 17 19 29 41 43 -.- 04 05 13 15 16 48
05 20 29 32 33 48 -.- 04 15 21 35 46 48
06 07 21 24 42 46 -.- 05 13 16 21 35 46
08 18 31 34 35 36 -.- 06 10 23 26 41 44
09 11 15 37 44 49 -.- 06 19 23 41 43 49
09 26 27 28 30 37 -.- 08 09 28 32 33 47
10 16 25 38 39 45 -.- 10 19 26 43 44 49
11 15 26 30 44 49 -.- 11 12 24 27 31 39
11 15 27 28 44 49 -.- 11 27 30 36 37 40
17 19 20 32 33 48 -.- 12 24 29 30 37 42
18 23 31 35 36 47 -.- 17 18 20 22 34 45
20 32 33 41 43 48 -.- 29 31 36 39 40 42
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Postby stan » Tue May 19, 2009 5:34 pm

[quote=daniel:1242424120]
[quote=stan:1242219812]
i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
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Would this produce different groups of triplets without duplicate numbers, which would change, depending on the initial triplet(s) chosen?
daniel
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i have no idea yet. i'll let you know when i'll start working on it
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Postby Alcymart » Wed May 20, 2009 4:25 am

[quote=daniel:1242424120]
[quote=stan:1242219812]
i suppose it would be nice to have this as an automated feature in the next version, right?
[/quote]

Would this produce different groups of triplets without duplicate numbers, which would change, depending on the initial triplet(s) chosen?
daniel
[/quote]

Depending on the initial triplets chosen, different groups without your consent will indeed be created. With Serotic, we can choose triplets we want, but will need to do this manually.

The automated procedure will be specific groups depending from the very first Triplets you'll choose. The only feature the automated procedure could do is select the Triplets randomly, but quite frankly, I wouldn't play so many tickets on a random guess especially when we all know that number occurrence of triplets, pairs drawn or whatever will eventually even out after so many draws.

Something else noticeable also is that if we choose triplets based on occurence, and then check if the serotic wheel would have won prizes... obviously it will have won often since we are checking a wheel created with winning combinations of numbers...so don't be fooled by this if you backtest a serotic wheel based on triplet occurrences.

There is also the possibility that Stan makes a new finding on Serotic wheels when he'll work on it. For example, when using pairs, we can only choose an even amount of numbers for our wheel. Triplets we can only choose an amount of numbers divisible by 3.

Finally you can make quads and quints too. These are typically used for Keno style games (more than 7 numbers/ticket).

Also... A Quad can be combined with a pair (4+2=6) to produce a pick 6 Serotic Jackpot wheel but Stan may have issues implementing this in EL.

Just an automated picking of pairs or triplets for us in EL would be great. There are only 3 softwares out there that can create Serotic wheels and only 1 of them has it automated... the rest is all a big hassle to create them wheels.

I see this Serotic (Matrix) wheel creator more as a feature to be used with other EL features in finding the winning combination such as the WNH Sum filter. I'm getting much better results using Stan's Strategy using triplets instead of individual numbers like he suggests.

Lottery cracking is like the String theory where once we make a new finding, it raises more questions than answers to infinity everytime...LOL.
Serotic wheels are powerfull IF you can predict the next triplets to be drawn, else their no better than any other wheel. Don't expect Magic with Serotic wheels. Like Padawanlotto said "There are 18424 total possible triplets in a 6/49"!
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