Match Summary Differences

Distinct History Diff

Postby kookoo » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:42 am

thanks Jerzy and Joe, i will take my time and go through all the info given.

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Postby Jerzy » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:01 am

Carbob,

The "Extra" group of filters is positioned or should be positioned in the Filter menu between Coverage and Compound filters. I have 14 filters in the Extra group, Distinct HD is one of them.

Have you checked that the Distinct History Differences filter is listed in Lottery --> Preferences --> Plugins and that the checkbox on the left of it is selected?

And have you checked that the Distinct History Differences plugin is actually inside the Plugins folder in EL installation?
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Match Number Distance and Match Number Distance with Latest

Postby kookoo » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:55 am

[quote=Jerzy]
Carbob,

The "Extra" group of filters is positioned or should be positioned in the Filter menu between Coverage and Compound filters. I have 14 filters in the Extra group, Distinct HD is one of them.

Have you checked that the Distinct History Differences filter is listed in Lottery --> Preferences --> Plugins and that the checkbox on the left of it is selected?

And have you checked that the Distinct History Differences plugin is actually inside the Plugins folder in EL installation?
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hi Jerzy,
what is


Hi Joe / Jerzy
What is the difference between, Match Number Distance and Match Number Distance with Latest and how do they work.
Thanks
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Postby CARBOB » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:22 pm

[quote=Jerzy]
Carbob,

The "Extra" group of filters is positioned or should be positioned in the Filter menu between Coverage and Compound filters. I have 14 filters in the Extra group, Distinct HD is one of them.
Have you checked that the Distinct History Differences filter is listed in Lottery --> Preferences --> Plugins and that the checkbox on the left of it is selected?
And have you checked that the Distinct History Differences plugin is actually inside the Plugins folder in EL installation?
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The Extra doesn't show.

The filter is not listed, but it's in the Plug-in folder.
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Postby Jerzy » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:51 pm

Carbob,

If the filter is not listed in Lottery > Preferences > Plugins, it wasn't installed correctly. None of the 14 filters which belong to the Extra group was installed correctly, so the Extra doesn't show. The presence of the filter file in the Plugins folder alone is not sufficient to make it working.

My suggestion is:
1. Delete the existing filter file from the Plugin folder
2.Dowload it again from the Joe's site to a temporary folder or to the desktop. When downloading filter file add the extension .jar to it and save as the .jar file.
3. Perform correct installation. Open Lottery > Preferences > Plugins, click on Install Manually button. The Select Plugin File panel will open. Select File Type: All Files. Find the filter file and click on it. It will appear in the File Name box. Click on Open button.
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Postby Jerzy » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:54 pm

kookoo,

It is getting late, so I will answer you questions tomorrow.
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Match Summary Differences Plugin

Postby PadawanLotto » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:52 pm

Hi Joe, I really like the Match Summary Differences filter that you put together. If you ever decide to upgrade this filter I have a few suggestions.

1. The ability to drag the cursor over the differences check boxes to place checks within the desired differences range instead of having to place a check in each and every box one at a time.

2. The ability to filter for a count range for each single difference within a chosen range of differences. Example: I want to filter a difference range of +20 to +29, I want the count to be 0 to 3 but, I also want each difference within the +20 to +29 range to appear 0 to 1 time in each ticket without having to filter each difference one at a time. In the lottery that I play it is rare that any one difference appears more than 1 to 2 times per draw.

If you filter a difference range such as +20 to +29 with a count of 0 to 3, each difference within the range can appear up to 3 times within on ticket combination. If you filter a difference range such as -30 to -39 with a count of 0 to 1, each of the differences within the range will only appear 0 to 1 time.

That’s all I have for now, thanks for all of the great filter plugins that you have worked so hard to put together for everybody.

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Postby CARBOB » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:37 pm

Thanks Jerzy, that worked.


[quote=Jerzy]
Carbob,

If the filter is not listed in Lottery > Preferences > Plugins, it wasn't installed correctly. None of the 14 filters which belong to the Extra group was installed correctly, so the Extra doesn't show. The presence of the filter file in the Plugins folder alone is not sufficient to make it working.

My suggestion is:
1. Delete the existing filter file from the Plugin folder
2.Dowload it again from the Joe's site to a temporary folder or to the desktop. When downloading filter file add the extension .jar to it and save as the .jar file.
3. Perform correct installation. Open Lottery > Preferences > Plugins, click on Install Manually button. The Select Plugin File panel will open. Select File Type: All Files. Find the filter file and click on it. It will appear in the File Name box. Click on Open button.
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Postby Joe » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:20 pm

[quote=PadawanLotto]If you filter a difference range such as +20 to +29 with a count of 0 to 3, each difference within the range can appear up to 3 times within on ticket combination. If you filter a difference range such as -30 to -39 with a count of 0 to 1, each of the differences within the range will only appear 0 to 1 time.[/quote]Padawan, This is possible, let me try this, but I cant work on filters now, so please wait for some more days thanks,
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Postby Jerzy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:45 pm

kookoo,

The Match Number Distance filter uses the distances between the neighboring numbers in the combination. There are 5 such distances in the pick 6 lotto.

The Match Number Distance with the Latest Result uses the distances between numbers of the latest and previous result. There are 36 such distances, 6 distances for each number position in the previous result.

Match Number Distance filter
The filter can be used with single or multiple values of distance which can be entered simultaneously.

Ways of using it:

1. To limit multiple occurrences of the same distance in the combination. E.g.: To make sure that there are not more than 2 distances of 6, enter the distance 6 and count 3 - 5 and use Remove.

2. Consider the following example which shows the distances in the last result and in 5 preceding results.

01/11/08 06, 10, 02, 07, 05
08/11/08 04, 03, 11, 06, 01
15/11/08 08, 06, 06, 05, 01
22/11/08 10, 04, 13, 07, 04
29/11/08 12, 12, 07, 06, 01
06/12/08 01, 08, 05, 02, 04

All distances which are in the last result occurred in the 5 preceding draws. The 5 preceding results have 25 distance positions but only 12 unique distances. Use it to your advantage.

If you enter these 12 distance values (01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 10, 11, 12, 13) into checkboxes in the filter, count setting 5 - 5, Leave, it will cover 35.40% of past jackpots in my game and the filtering will leave only 2,803,560 tickets in the package.

More relaxed setting, count 4 - 5, covers 87.82% of past jackpots and leaves 7,115,640 tickets in the package. Full package has 8,145,060 tickets.

I will write on the Match Distance with the Latest Result later.
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Postby PadawanLotto » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:06 pm

[quote=Jerzy]
The Match Number Distance filter uses the distances between the neighboring numbers in the combination. There are 5 such distances in the pick 6 lotto.

The Match Number Distance with the Latest Result uses the distances between numbers of the latest and previous result. There are 36 such distances, 6 distances for each number position in the previous result.

Match Number Distance filter
The filter can be used with single or multiple values of distance which can be entered simultaneously.

Ways of using it:

1. To limit multiple occurrences of the same distance in the combination. E.g.: To make sure that there are not more than 2 distances of 6, enter the distance 6 and count 3 - 5 and use Remove.
Wouldn't you have to do this for every distance that you used one at a time?

2. Consider the following example which shows the distances in the last result and in 5 preceding results.

01/11/08 06, 10, 02, 07, 05
08/11/08 04, 03, 11, 06, 01
15/11/08 08, 06, 06, 05, 01
22/11/08 10, 04, 13, 07, 04
29/11/08 12, 12, 07, 06, 01
06/12/08 01, 08, 05, 02, 04

All distances which are in the last result occurred in the 5 preceding draws. The 5 preceding results have 25 distance positions but only 12 unique distances. Use it to your advantage.

If you enter these 12 distance values (01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 10, 11, 12, 13) into checkboxes in the filter, count setting 5 - 5, Leave, it will cover 35.40% of past jackpots in my game and the filtering will leave only 2,803,560 tickets in the package.

Wouldn't this leave combinations that contain up to 5 of the same distance?

More relaxed setting, count 4 - 5, covers 87.82% of past jackpots and leaves 7,115,640 tickets in the package. Full package has 8,145,060 tickets.

I will write on the Match Distance with the Latest Result later.
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This is a good filter but it would be nice if we could limit the count of each distance without having to filter each distance one at a time. If we could choose a range of distances and filter for each distance within the range will appear 0 to 2 times.
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Postby Jerzy » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:52 am

Padawan,

To limit multiple occurrences of the same distances in the combination, you have to filter 1 distance value at a time and repeat this for all distances that you want to filter.

The filter works in a different way when it targets the single values of distance and in a different way when it targets the groups of distance values. An the results of filtering are different.

If the filter targets a group of distance values, the values involved compete for the place in the combination (particularly when there are more distance values to filter than distances in the combination) and they become interdependent.

Let's consider the following example:

You want to have from 0 to 2 occurrences of the distance 7 and distance 8 (not more than 2 occurrences of each value in the same combination).

You filter each distance value separately. After filtering the distance 7 with Count 3-5, Remove, you have in the package the tickets with:

0 occurrences of 7
1 occurrence of 7
2 occurrences of 7

Then you filter the distance 8 with the same setting and you receive the tickets with:

0 occurrences of 8
1 occurrence of 8
2 occurrences of 8

After 2 stages of filtering you have the tickets in the package which contain:

0x7 & 0x8
1x7 & 1x8
2x7 & 2x8
0x7 & 1x8
0x7 & 2x8
1x7 & 0x8
1x7 & 2x8
2x7 & 0x8
2x7 & 1x8

If you take a different approach and filter both distance values at the same time, you will receive some of these distance combinations with the exception of 2x7 & 2x8 which will be inconsistent with Count 3 - 5, Remove (which means 0 - 2, Leave), and there will be no 1x7 & 2x8 and no 1x8 & 2x7.

So after filtering single distance values you have the tickets with 2x7 AND 2x8 in the same combination, while filtering the same distance values as a group gives you tickets with 2x7 OR 2x8 in the same combination. And there are other differences.

Using a group of number distances in this filter is not suitable for limiting the occurrences of the same distance. The tickets with 5 the same distances can remain after filtering and need to be delt with in a diferent way.
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Postby PadawanLotto » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:23 pm

Thanks Jerzy, I'm looking forward to what you have to say about the Match Distance with the Latest Result filter.

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Postby Jerzy » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:03 pm

kookoo and Padawan,

The Match Number Distance with the Latest Result filter is based on the distances between the numbers of the last and previous result. Probably you can use any previous result, but, because this is a new filter, I have no experience with using a variety of previous results.

You have to calculate 36 distances, 6 for each number position. For example:

Last result: 01, 02, 10, 15, 17, 21
Previous result: 06, 18, 30, 37, 43, 44

Number position 1: (1-6), (2-6), (10-6), (15-6), (17-6), (21-6)
-5, -4, +4, +9, +11, +15
Number position 2: (1-18), (2-18), (10-18), (15-18), (17-18), (21-18)
-17, -16, -8, -3, -1, +3
Number position 3: (1-30), (2-30), (10-30), (15-30), (17-30), (21-30)
-29, -28, -20, -15, -13, -9
Calculate the number distances for the remaining number positions in the same way.

Ignore minuses and pluses, they are relevent only when you use these distances as number movements for the Match Number Movement with the Latest filter.

Enter the distances for the appropriate positions. Backtest for each number position using Distance Count 6 - 6, Leave. The last jackpot should be listed. To test the filter, use the same setting, but skip the last draw in Winning Numbers.

Using Backtest and Preview find the most convenient Distance Count setting for your game. In my game (6/45) distance Count 3 - 6, Remove seems to be OK, but Count 2 - 6 a bit excessive. It can vary depending on the combinations used to calculate the distances.

Good Luck
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Postby kookoo » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:44 am

[quote=Jerzy]
kookoo and Padawan,

The Match Number Distance with the Latest Result filter is based on the distances between the numbers of the last and previous result. Probably you can use any previous result, but, because this is a new filter, I have no experience with using a variety of previous results.

You have to calculate 36 distances, 6 for each number position. For example:

Last result: 01, 02, 10, 15, 17, 21
Previous result: 06, 18, 30, 37, 43, 44

Number position 1: (1-6), (2-6), (10-6), (15-6), (17-6), (21-6)
-5, -4, +4, +9, +11, +15
Number position 2: (1-18), (2-18), (10-18), (15-18), (17-18), (21-18)
-17, -16, -8, -3, -1, +3
Number position 3: (1-30), (2-30), (10-30), (15-30), (17-30), (21-30)
-29, -28, -20, -15, -13, -9
Calculate the number distances for the remaining number positions in the same way.

Ignore minuses and pluses, they are relevent only when you use these distances as number movements for the Match Number Movement with the Latest filter.

Enter the distances for the appropriate positions. Backtest for each number position using Distance Count 6 - 6, Leave. The last jackpot should be listed. To test the filter, use the same setting, but skip the last draw in Winning Numbers.

Using Backtest and Preview find the most convenient Distance Count setting for your game. In my game (6/45) distance Count 3 - 6, Remove seems to be OK, but Count 2 - 6 a bit excessive. It can vary depending on the combinations used to calculate the distances.

Good Luck
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Thanks Jerzy, good work.

how do you calculate just the Match Number Distance (not with the latest)l

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