Games Out View of History

Games Out View of History

Postby Ophiuchus » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:03 pm

Stan ...

I have been studying the WNH Tab of the Expert Lotto application. Please tell me if you agree with my thoughts. Before I begin, I want to know if you are familiar with the concept of the "Games Out View History". This is a concept that I became familiar with using Gail Howards application over the years. Believe it or not your product uses this concept as well too. The value is dervied from the summation of the length of time since the winning balls where last drawn. For example, I am in Georgia right now tracking the Fantasy 5. The winning comb was 11,12,24,33,35. The games out view was 11(0),12(12),24(7),33(1),35(4). If you add the values in parenthesis, the total is 24. Each value represents how long each ball was out the last time it was drawn.

If you break down your WNH values 0-10, depending on the number of balls in the game (GA5/39), the next pre-game Sum calculation starts by adding 33 to the Current SUM. For example 7/7/2011 Sum0 = 315 + 33 = 347. This is the most that the sum could ever be. Once the actual outcome is observed, The games out value minus the Pre Game Sum will represent the actual Sum 0.

My point is that Gamesout values seem somewhat patternistic, so if you believe the GamesOut will be lets say 42. You now have an estimate for SUM 0. The problem is that it takes a little more work to know the Games Out values for Sum 1 to Sum 10. I believe if you can include some aspect of this in your application you might be able to set your WNH Sums much better.

If you dont understand what I am saying, I will put together a much clearer explanation.
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Re: Games Out View of History

Postby CARBOB » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:45 pm

I've attached an image, please explain the method for computing the sums using the skips.
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Re: Games Out View of History

Postby Ophiuchus » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:41 am

Lets look at data point 7/3/2011 to 7/4/2011 because it is the last point in my GH Database. Looks like this is pick 5/36. SUM0 on 7/3/2011 is 246. I would use 33 for 5/39. You would use 30 for pick 5/36. Your 7/4/2011 PreGame Sum would be 276. If you had an estimate of what you thought the next Total Skip would be. In this instance it is actually 28. 276-28 = 248. SUM 0 for 7/4/2011 is 249. The reason it is one off I believe has to do with the way we count 0,1,2,3.

This is all I have time to explain for Sum 0. The other calculations are more time consuming. I will explain please give me like a week. The reason I am in Atlanta is for my step fathers funeral and I just dont have time for a full explanation. Yes, it would work for Florida too
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Re: Games Out View of History

Postby CARBOB » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:18 am

Ophiuchus wrote:Lets look at data point 7/3/2011 to 7/4/2011 because it is the last point in my GH Database. Looks like this is pick 5/36. SUM0 on 7/3/2011 is 246. I would use 33 for 5/39. You would use 30 for pick 5/36. Your 7/4/2011 PreGame Sum would be 276. If you had an estimate of what you thought the next Total Skip would be. In this instance it is actually 28. 276-28 = 248. SUM 0 for 7/4/2011 is 249. The reason it is one off I believe has to do with the way we count 0,1,2,3.

This is all I have time to explain for Sum 0. The other calculations are more time consuming. I will explain please give me like a week. The reason I am in Atlanta is for my step fathers funeral and I just dont have time for a full explanation. Yes, it would work for Florida too



My sympathy goes out to the entire family for their loss. Thank you for taking the time for your explanation.
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Re: Games Out View of History

Postby stan » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:29 pm

there is 'ticket interval' statistical property in the dev build which is your 'games out sum' divided by the count of numbers in a ticket. so it's in fact the average 'games out' value of all ticket numbers. it's not a problem to add 'games out sum' stats...
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