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new idea

Postby clothdog » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:59 pm

1) Have you ever considered using the root values for sums? So if the sum is 217 then the root value is 10. Overdue root sums are something to consider especially if you have a range narrowed down.

2) how about looking at the line as a 3 digit number using roots? Example 3 -12-26-38- 41-54, so your 3 digit would be 338-259.
Then playing the suggested root values in their appropriate slots. So if the numbers suggested for the roots were 437-782, you would play 4-13 in the 1st positon(not likely 22 would be in the first position. 12-21 second position etc.) Kind of like playing the Pik 6 in horse racing.
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Re: new idea

Postby stan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:55 pm

clothdog wrote:1) Have you ever considered using the root values for sums? So if the sum is 217 then the root value is 10. Overdue root sums are something to consider especially if you have a range narrowed down.

there already is sum root support in expert lotto

2) how about looking at the line as a 3 digit number using roots? Example 3 -12-26-38- 41-54, so your 3 digit would be 338-259.
Then playing the suggested root values in their appropriate slots. So if the numbers suggested for the roots were 437-782, you would play 4-13 in the 1st positon(not likely 22 would be in the first position. 12-21 second position etc.) Kind of like playing the Pik 6 in horse racing.
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sorry, it isn't quite clear to me what you're suggesting here...
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Re: new idea

Postby clothdog » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:23 pm

Playing overdue or due roots in the position of the lottery. So if it's a 5 digit lottery and the numbers drawn were 5-13-17-22-34
your roots would be 5-4-8-4-7. So if your analysis leads to the most overdue draws as 6-1-3-4-6 you would play the roots in that position of your draw. So in the first position, you would play 6-15-24, second position you would play 10-19-28 etc.
So maybe the software indicates that 3-4-5 are the most due roots for that position so you would play 3 -12-,4-13-5-14 etc.
On the 6 digit lotto it would be breaking into 2- 3 digit games. Or just playing the most overdue roots in that position or whatever. If you look at past draws Eg. NY TAke 5:
1/7/2012 09 11 16 17 30
1/8/2012 02 04 05 22 29
1/9/2012 08 10 18 24 33
1/10/2012 06 10 19 26 30
so on 1/7 the roots are :
9-2-7-8-3 the following draw produced 2-4-5-4-2.
2-4-5-4-2 and continues:
8-1-9-6-6
6-1-1-8-3
Notice that the roots don't generally repeat in the same position.
So the bottom line is finding the best roots to play in the number positions.
thanks!
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Re: new idea

Postby teoman » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:53 am

Hi, Stan,

It's possible to make a filter where a number or more of the current draw to be the sum of two or three numbers of previous draw?
Of the 1080 draws from Romanian Lottery 'Loto 6/49' are the sum of two numbers:

474 draws no number
410 draws one number
147 draws two numbers
43 draws three numbers
6 draws four numbers.

Examples:

15.01.2012 D 04 13 14 32 39 45
12.01.2012 J 03 04 05 08 15 21

13 = 05 + 08
32 = 03 + 08 + 21

or

11.09.2011 D 12 19 20 29 38 43
08.09.2011 J 06 09 10 11 26 30

19 = 09 + 10
20 = 09 + 11
43 = 06 + 11+ 26
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Re: new idea

Postby stan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:57 am

clothdog wrote:Playing overdue or due roots in the position of the lottery. So if it's a 5 digit lottery and the numbers drawn were 5-13-17-22-34
your roots would be 5-4-8-4-7. So if your analysis leads to the most overdue draws as 6-1-3-4-6 you would play the roots in that position of your draw. So in the first position, you would play 6-15-24, second position you would play 10-19-28 etc.
So maybe the software indicates that 3-4-5 are the most due roots for that position so you would play 3 -12-,4-13-5-14 etc.
On the 6 digit lotto it would be breaking into 2- 3 digit games. Or just playing the most overdue roots in that position or whatever. If you look at past draws Eg. NY TAke 5:
1/7/2012 09 11 16 17 30
1/8/2012 02 04 05 22 29
1/9/2012 08 10 18 24 33
1/10/2012 06 10 19 26 30
so on 1/7 the roots are :
9-2-7-8-3 the following draw produced 2-4-5-4-2.
2-4-5-4-2 and continues:
8-1-9-6-6
6-1-1-8-3
Notice that the roots don't generally repeat in the same position.
So the bottom line is finding the best roots to play in the number positions.
thanks!
cd

i have a plan to implement some sort of number transformations feature. there will be an option to specify a conversion for each number and then filter the converted numbers. the filter you request above is one of good candidates for such a feature...
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Re: new idea

Postby stan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:59 am

teoman wrote:Hi, Stan,

It's possible to make a fiktru where a number or more of the current draw to be the sum of two or three numbers of previous draw?
Of the 1080 draws from Romanian Lottery 'Loto 6/49' are the sum of two numbers:

474 draws no number
410 draws one number
147 draws two numbers
43 draws three numbers
6 draws four numbers.

Examples:

15.01.2012 D 04 13 14 32 39 45
12.01.2012 J 03 04 05 08 15 21

13 = 05 + 08
32 = 03 + 08 + 21

or

11.09.2011 D 12 19 20 29 38 43
08.09.2011 J 06 09 10 11 26 30

19 = 09 + 10
20 = 09 + 11
43 = 06 + 11+ 26

in general it is possible to create such a filter but what do you expect from it?
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Re: new idea

Postby teoman » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:01 pm

stan wrote:
teoman wrote:Hi, Stan,

It's possible to make a filter where a number or more of the current draw to be the sum of two or three numbers of previous draw?
Of the 1080 draws from Romanian Lottery 'Loto 6/49' are the sum of two numbers:

474 draws no number
410 draws one number
147 draws two numbers
43 draws three numbers
6 draws four numbers.

Examples:

15.01.2012 D 04 13 14 32 39 45
12.01.2012 J 03 04 05 08 15 21

13 = 05 + 08
32 = 03 + 08 + 21

or

11.09.2011 D 12 19 20 29 38 43
08.09.2011 J 06 09 10 11 26 30

19 = 09 + 10
20 = 09 + 11
43 = 06 + 11+ 26

in general it is possible to create such a filter but what do you expect from it?

What do you can expect from any other filters, reducing a number of combinations of the 13,938,816, according to the settings applied.
This not make all filters?
If we extend to be the sum or difference of two or three or more numbers of previous draw we can get:

15.01.2012 D 04 13 14 32 39 45
12.01.2012 J 03 04 05 08 15 21

04 = 08 - 04
13 = 05 + 08
13 = 21 - 08
14 = 21 - 03 - 04)
32 = 03 + 08 + 21
39 = 03 + 15 + 21
45 = 04 + 05 + 15 + 21

or

11.09.2011 D 12 19 20 29 38 43
08.09.2011 J 06 09 10 11 26 30

12 = 10 + 11 - 09
19 = 09 + 10
20 = 09 + 11
20 = 30 - 10
20 = 26 - 06
29 = 09 + 30 - 10
38 = 09 + 10 + 30 - 11
43 = 06 + 11+ 26
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Re: new idea

Postby Gatsby » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:51 pm

stan wrote:
clothdog wrote:Playing overdue or due roots in the position of the lottery. So if it's a 5 digit lottery and the numbers drawn were 5-13-17-22-34
your roots would be 5-4-8-4-7. So if your analysis leads to the most overdue draws as 6-1-3-4-6 you would play the roots in that position of your draw. So in the first position, you would play 6-15-24, second position you would play 10-19-28 etc.
So maybe the software indicates that 3-4-5 are the most due roots for that position so you would play 3 -12-,4-13-5-14 etc.
On the 6 digit lotto it would be breaking into 2- 3 digit games. Or just playing the most overdue roots in that position or whatever. If you look at past draws Eg. NY TAke 5:
1/7/2012 09 11 16 17 30
1/8/2012 02 04 05 22 29
1/9/2012 08 10 18 24 33
1/10/2012 06 10 19 26 30
so on 1/7 the roots are :
9-2-7-8-3 the following draw produced 2-4-5-4-2.
2-4-5-4-2 and continues:
8-1-9-6-6
6-1-1-8-3
Notice that the roots don't generally repeat in the same position.
So the bottom line is finding the best roots to play in the number positions.
thanks!
cd

i have a plan to implement some sort of number transformations feature. there will be an option to specify a conversion for each number and then filter the converted numbers. the filter you request above is one of good candidates for such a feature...


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