Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby motiram » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:41 am

Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Hi everyone,

6/49 lotteries has 1.906.884 Pentad Pattern

Here I am taking example of Expert Lotto 6/49 (Demo Lottery)

Where 1 latest draw of this demo lottery is as show below.

2010/28 dom 2nd 23 29 36 42 44 47 7

If I analysis winning number statistics Number Combination Pentads (selecting 1 latest draw)
The result is shown as below
Pentad OCC %
23-29-36-42-44 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-29-36-42-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-29-36-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-29-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-36-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
29-36-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a

If you look it is Analyzing and showing occurrence of all possible pentads combination can be made by last result.

Here my query is it possible to check only first Five (pentads) numbers. Of celebrated draw.
In this case first five pentads numbers will be 23-29-36-42-44. So analysis result should be as
Shown below.

Pentad OCC %
23-29-36-42-44 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a


These are the possible combination of the 6 number draws but not celebrated yet.
23-29-36-42-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-29-36-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-29-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
23-36-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a
29-36-42-44-47 1 16,67 1 n/a n/a n/a n/a


Please help,

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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby stan » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:37 am

motiram wrote:Here my query is it possible to check only first Five (pentads) numbers. Of celebrated draw.
In this case first five pentads numbers will be 23-29-36-42-44. So analysis result should be as
Shown below.

no, it isn't possible. the stats table always shows all pentad combinations.
what do you need it for anyway?
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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby motiram » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:05 pm

Hi Stan,

Thank you very much for replying. What do I need it for?
Pentad is reduced pattern of 6/49 lottery (Pentad makes 1.906.884 combination out of 13.983.816)

But to win jackpot we need to add 6th number. For example if I want to play pentad pattern starting with number 23-29-36-42-44 as it is impossible to know what will be the sixth number. I will play 5 possible combination of 6 number this case combination will be 23-29-36-42-44-45, 23-29-36-42-44-46, 23-29-36-42-44-47, 23-29-36-42-44-48, 23-29-36-42-44-49 (this way I am expending pentad to normal combination)

Now suppose result is 23-29-36-42-44-48 in this case I think one pentad combination is out which is
23-29-36-42-44 and rest (1.906.884-1=1906.883 has to come out)

But the programme is showing the following pentad pattern are occurred once.

1) 23-29-36-42-44
2) 23-29-36-42-48
3) 23-29-36-44-48
4) 23-29-42-44-48
5) 23-36-42-44-48
6) 29-39-42-44-48

Which is not true. For me pattern should be shown is statistics occurrence should be
1) Which is 23-29-36-42-44 which I have completed playing of 5 combinations.

Still I have to play following combination which are missing out of the 13.983.816
2) 23-29-36-42-48-----49
3) 23-29-36-44-48-----49
4) 23-29-42-44-48-----49
5) 23-36-42-44-48-----49
6) 29-23-42-44-48-----49

If not I will be the looser if these occur.

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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby stan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:14 am

i'm not sure i understand what you're after. but wouldn't it be easier for you to setup a new 5/xx lottery instead the regular 6/xx and look for the pentads in the reduced lottery?
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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby motiram » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:57 am

Hi stan,

Thank you once again for your replay,

As you suggest in your last post I setup new lottery 5_49 but in that is not possible to analyze pentad. Please see the attached screen shot.

I do not know the way how pentad can analysis first five number occurrences instead of all possible pattern. Generated by 6 winning numbers.

I think if winning number 6th position can be masked as package table. Than may be it is possible.
Or may be not? You are the master.

Please help

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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby stan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:44 am

motiram wrote:Hi stan,

Thank you once again for your replay,

As you suggest in your last post I setup new lottery 5_49 but in that is not possible to analyze pentad. Please see the attached screen shot.

no, you can't analyze pentads in a 5/xx lottery because each ticket is a single pentad.
but you can use other expert lotto features to find tickets (pentads) that you think will hit in the next draw. then you can just add the sixth number to play them in a regular 6/xx lottery.
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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby motiram » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:40 pm

Hi stan,

Thank you for your attention,

In the lottery 5/XX to find tickets (pentads) which are not hit. Only the way I find to see them that load the Full package and go to menu package and show them as winning.
Please see the attached file. (Package Show As Winning in Lottery 5_49.)

Now Please see the attached file. (Pentad Analysis in Lottery 6_49.)
Where I can hide Zero Occurrence, Arrange them in latest order and also can see the interval and also get information that which First Number is been hit in pentads. All these information are not possible with other feature of Expert Lotto.

I only find that if (suppose 10 draws) are celebrated. Analyser instead of showing 10 pentad is hit shows 60 pentad are hit which are not true. (Each draw is multiplied by 6)

Please help if there is any other suggestion to get required result for this query?


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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby stan » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:39 pm

motiram wrote:Hi stan,

Thank you for your attention,

In the lottery 5/XX to find tickets (pentads) which are not hit. Only the way I find to see them that load the Full package and go to menu package and show them as winning.
Please see the attached file. (Package Show As Winning in Lottery 5_49.)

Now Please see the attached file. (Pentad Analysis in Lottery 6_49.)
Where I can hide Zero Occurrence, Arrange them in latest order and also can see the interval and also get information that which First Number is been hit in pentads. All these information are not possible with other feature of Expert Lotto.

I only find that if (suppose 10 draws) are celebrated. Analyser instead of showing 10 pentad is hit shows 60 pentad are hit which are not true. (Each draw is multiplied by 6)

every ticket in a 6/xx breaks down to six pentads so the analyzer correctly reports they hit in a given draw.

if there are only a few pentads you're interested in then insert them into the package using masked positions and then analyze the package and choose to analyze draw intervals for the 10 latest draws. the analyzer will then show the latest hit of each pentad in the package.
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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby motiram » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:15 am

Hi Stan,

Thank you for your Help and explanation, and sorry for replying late because really I was not conformed to your argument that (every ticket in a 6/xx breaks down to six pentads so the analyzer correctly reports they hit in a given draw). Well after thinking thoroughly I can say you are correct. It was my mistake to ask about my query wrong way. I apologize for that.

After all experiments now I am clear what I wanted.

Really not Pentad I want to know occurrence, minimum and maximum interval of each pair, triplets, or pentad by position

I wanted to know occurrence of 5 numbers in first 5 positions (which I named Pentad)

To make easy for example instead of 5 numbers in first 5 position I want to explain here with 2 numbers in first 2 position (in this case I will not call them pairs, or other word I can say pair of first and second position)


Example:
If I make pair of two numbers only in position 1 and in position 2 then pairs will be 990.
First pair will be 1-2 and last will be 44-45.

Please see attached Excel workbook. Analysis of Pairs Triplets Pentad by position

Stan I have tried to explain well and I hope at least you can imagine what I am after.

Please help is it possible to get this information same way with EL V5?

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Re: Winning Number Pentad Analysis

Postby stan » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:31 pm

well, i can try an extra plugin to analyze the first pair/triplet/quad/pentad in each ticket but unless there's a working strategy behind this idea i'm not willing to work on a module for a single person.

besides, you can create a new 6/50 lottery. then export winning numbers from your current lottery to ms excel, replace the last number in each draw with number 50 and import these adjusted winning numbers into the new 6/50 lottery. then use masked numbers to generate all possible combinations of 5 numbers and analayze package tickets. you'll get the pentad analysis you've been looking for.
the same applies for first pairs, triplets etc.
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