Stan,
Ref(2) , Rank = {( Latest Skip - Min Skip) /(Max Skip - Min Skip) *100%}, Immediately you will notice this statistic at the numerator is incorrect, it relates to the presumption that the 'Latest Skip' in the skip bandwidth is representative of the occurences . This is incorrect as there is no such relationship, worse still it does not account for any repeats. Unfortunately this ordinal statistic is on all statistics pages, which I believe has not been properly concieved or tested. I do agree this statistic needs revamping and do hope we all get the opportunity to put it right.
Ref(3), I thought the problem was the calculation of 'No of possible occurency' for 'sum' was difficult, because EL calculates statistics for each sum value, and perhaps this is computationally intensive. My suggestion was simply to reorganise that statistics page similar to the other pages for sum values in ranges such as (0-20, 20-40,40-60,60-80,80-100,100-120,120-140,140-160,160-180,180-200,200-220,220-240,>), you are left with 12 rows of statistics as opposed to 220+ rows as shown currently. I assume the calculation of all the rest of the statistics are point parameters hence should be not be a problem.
In my way of thinking we need not take up any real estate, only three indicative statistics (Rank,Expectancy or Probability, Strength) are required to enable useful analysis of the filter and package statistics. I do hope we will have the opportunity to revamp these pages by general consensus?.
Add on EL
by stan » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:34 pm
[quote=Midas:1193263128]
Ref(2) , Rank = {( Latest Skip - Min Skip) /(Max Skip - Min Skip) *100%}, Immediately you will notice this statistic at the numerator is incorrect, it relates to the presumption that the 'Latest Skip' in the skip bandwidth is representative of the occurences . This is incorrect as there is no such relationship, worse still it does not account for any repeats. Unfortunately this ordinal statistic is on all statistics pages, which I believe has not been properly concieved or tested. I do agree this statistic needs revamping and do hope we all get the opportunity to put it right.
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removing redundant columns or fixing existing stats is ok with me. however the usual reaction from expert lotto community would be 'it might be useful, let's leave it there':)
grouping the sums won't help me a bit as i still don't know 'the number possible occurrences' for sum group A for lottery X/Y (short of iterating all possible combinations...)
see my comment above:) but i think i should clear the stats tables a bit and leave the extra columns in jackpot builds only
Ref(2) , Rank = {( Latest Skip - Min Skip) /(Max Skip - Min Skip) *100%}, Immediately you will notice this statistic at the numerator is incorrect, it relates to the presumption that the 'Latest Skip' in the skip bandwidth is representative of the occurences . This is incorrect as there is no such relationship, worse still it does not account for any repeats. Unfortunately this ordinal statistic is on all statistics pages, which I believe has not been properly concieved or tested. I do agree this statistic needs revamping and do hope we all get the opportunity to put it right.
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removing redundant columns or fixing existing stats is ok with me. however the usual reaction from expert lotto community would be 'it might be useful, let's leave it there':)
Ref(3), I thought the problem was the calculation of 'No of possible occurency' for 'sum' was difficult, because EL calculates statistics for each sum value, and perhaps this is computationally intensive. My suggestion was simply to reorganise that statistics page similar to the other pages for sum values in ranges such as (0-20, 20-40,40-60,60-80,80-100,100-120,120-140,140-160,160-180,180-200,200-220,220-240,>), you are left with 12 rows of statistics as opposed to 220+ rows as shown currently. I assume the calculation of all the rest of the statistics are point parameters hence should be not be a problem.
grouping the sums won't help me a bit as i still don't know 'the number possible occurrences' for sum group A for lottery X/Y (short of iterating all possible combinations...)
In my way of thinking we need not take up any real estate, only three indicative statistics (Rank,Expectancy or Probability, Strength) are required to enable useful analysis of the filter and package statistics. I do hope we will have the opportunity to revamp these pages by general consensus?.
see my comment above:) but i think i should clear the stats tables a bit and leave the extra columns in jackpot builds only
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by maroc » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:10 pm
[quote=maroc:1154346392]
Hi Stan
A reminder
HERE it's
Lotto Maroc (LAST DIGIT Table)
LAST DRAW 01-05-13-14-37-39
Skiping Data Freq. Last Digit
-Last Digit--....-------------Skips------------......---Frequency--
----Times---
1-2-3-4-5-6.....Cur.......... Avg.........Med....... Avg........Med
6-0-0-0-0-0 ......0.............. 4............ 4.......... 46 ..........34
4-1-0-0-0-0 ......1.............. 2............ 2 .........109......... 34
3-0-1-0-0-0...... 3............ 20........... 10.......... 10.......... 34
2-2-0-0-0-0...... 9.............. 6............ 6........... 33 ..........34
1-1-1-0-0-0 ......7 ............33............ 7............ 6 ...........34
0-3-0-0-0-0 ....87............. 60.......... 28........... 2............ 34
^
The combo 0-3-0-0-0-0 has not been drawn for 87 times and the most frequent arrangement for LD lotto 6/49 is 4-1-0-0-0-0 about 53 %.The 1-2-3-4-5-6 .6 under colm 1 mean 6 last digit completly diferent from each other and so on....
Lotto Maroc (FIRST DIGIT Table)
LAST DRAW 01-05-13-14-37-39
Skiping Data Freq. First Digit
-First Digit--....-------------Skips------------......---Frequency--
---Times----
1-2-3-4-5-6.....Cur.......... Avg.........Med....... Avg........Med
4-1-0-0-0-0..... 17............. 9........... 8.......... 22.......... 26
3-0-1-0-0-0..... 19............. 5........... 4.......... 37.......... 26
2-2-0-0-0-0...... 1 ..............3 ...........3.......... 76 ..........26
2-0-0-1-0-0..... 27............ 15 ..........11......... 12.......... 26
1-1-1-0-0-0 .....2............... 5........... 4 ..........45.......... 26
1-0-0-0-1-0..... 186.......... 20........... 0 ..........1............ 26
0-3-0-0-0-0...... 0............. 23........... 5.......... 9 ............26
The combination above it's for last draw 01-05-13-14-37-39
0-0-2-0-0-0..... 39............ 42 ..........21......... 4............ 26
I hope you see what i mean.Thank's
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Hi Stan,
I Think it's time to add stats table for last digit grouping and first digit grouping also a filter for them.
Combo 01 10 12 22 23 30 got a 2 LDG (last Digit Group) the same and 2 not .
Combo 01 10 12 22 23 30 got a 2 FDG (First Digit Group) the same and 2 not.
in lotto 6/49 there is six must combo of LDG:
6 diferent LDG..............................01 12 23 34 45 49
4 diferent LDG and 2 same ..............................01 12 22 34 45 49
3 diferent LDG and 3 same ..............................01 12 22 32 45 49
2 diferent LDG and 2 group LDG same........................01 12 22 35 45 49
1 diferent LDG and 2 same and 1of 3 LDG same..........01 12 22 32 35 45
0 diferent LDG and 3 group of 3 same LDG ....ect........01 02 11 21 32 42
Same for FDG
ect...
I Hope you decide to add these in EL.
Thank you
Hi Stan
A reminder
HERE it's
Lotto Maroc (LAST DIGIT Table)
LAST DRAW 01-05-13-14-37-39
Skiping Data Freq. Last Digit
-Last Digit--....-------------Skips------------......---Frequency--
----Times---
1-2-3-4-5-6.....Cur.......... Avg.........Med....... Avg........Med
6-0-0-0-0-0 ......0.............. 4............ 4.......... 46 ..........34
4-1-0-0-0-0 ......1.............. 2............ 2 .........109......... 34
3-0-1-0-0-0...... 3............ 20........... 10.......... 10.......... 34
2-2-0-0-0-0...... 9.............. 6............ 6........... 33 ..........34
1-1-1-0-0-0 ......7 ............33............ 7............ 6 ...........34
0-3-0-0-0-0 ....87............. 60.......... 28........... 2............ 34
^
The combo 0-3-0-0-0-0 has not been drawn for 87 times and the most frequent arrangement for LD lotto 6/49 is 4-1-0-0-0-0 about 53 %.The 1-2-3-4-5-6 .6 under colm 1 mean 6 last digit completly diferent from each other and so on....
Lotto Maroc (FIRST DIGIT Table)
LAST DRAW 01-05-13-14-37-39
Skiping Data Freq. First Digit
-First Digit--....-------------Skips------------......---Frequency--
---Times----
1-2-3-4-5-6.....Cur.......... Avg.........Med....... Avg........Med
4-1-0-0-0-0..... 17............. 9........... 8.......... 22.......... 26
3-0-1-0-0-0..... 19............. 5........... 4.......... 37.......... 26
2-2-0-0-0-0...... 1 ..............3 ...........3.......... 76 ..........26
2-0-0-1-0-0..... 27............ 15 ..........11......... 12.......... 26
1-1-1-0-0-0 .....2............... 5........... 4 ..........45.......... 26
1-0-0-0-1-0..... 186.......... 20........... 0 ..........1............ 26
0-3-0-0-0-0...... 0............. 23........... 5.......... 9 ............26
The combination above it's for last draw 01-05-13-14-37-39
0-0-2-0-0-0..... 39............ 42 ..........21......... 4............ 26
I hope you see what i mean.Thank's
[/quote]
Hi Stan,
I Think it's time to add stats table for last digit grouping and first digit grouping also a filter for them.
Combo 01 10 12 22 23 30 got a 2 LDG (last Digit Group) the same and 2 not .
Combo 01 10 12 22 23 30 got a 2 FDG (First Digit Group) the same and 2 not.
in lotto 6/49 there is six must combo of LDG:
6 diferent LDG..............................01 12 23 34 45 49
4 diferent LDG and 2 same ..............................01 12 22 34 45 49
3 diferent LDG and 3 same ..............................01 12 22 32 45 49
2 diferent LDG and 2 group LDG same........................01 12 22 35 45 49
1 diferent LDG and 2 same and 1of 3 LDG same..........01 12 22 32 35 45
0 diferent LDG and 3 group of 3 same LDG ....ect........01 02 11 21 32 42
Same for FDG
ect...
I Hope you decide to add these in EL.
Thank you
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More Draws per day in EL
by maroc » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:16 am
Hi Stan and everyone,
It's long time since i've post here.
I think you can make EL accept more than 240 draws / day instead of making draw # 1 , #2 ect... you can make it by a minut exempl:
17/12/2002 01:00 02,36,46
17/12/2002 01:01 02,37,43
17/12/2002 01:02 02,37,46
17/12/2002 01:03 02,43,46
17/12/2002 01:04 15,19,21
17/12/2002 01:05 15,19,24
17/12/2002 01:06 15,19,36
17/12/2002 01:07 15,19,37
17/12/2002 01:08 15,19,43
17/12/2002 01:09 15,19,46
17/12/2002 01:10 15,21,24
17/12/2002 01:11 15,21,36
17/12/2002 01:12 15,21,37
ect...
Hope you got it.
It's long time since i've post here.
I think you can make EL accept more than 240 draws / day instead of making draw # 1 , #2 ect... you can make it by a minut exempl:
17/12/2002 01:00 02,36,46
17/12/2002 01:01 02,37,43
17/12/2002 01:02 02,37,46
17/12/2002 01:03 02,43,46
17/12/2002 01:04 15,19,21
17/12/2002 01:05 15,19,24
17/12/2002 01:06 15,19,36
17/12/2002 01:07 15,19,37
17/12/2002 01:08 15,19,43
17/12/2002 01:09 15,19,46
17/12/2002 01:10 15,21,24
17/12/2002 01:11 15,21,36
17/12/2002 01:12 15,21,37
ect...
Hope you got it.
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by maroc » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:18 pm
Hi,
The idea behind what i have posted above is:
For uk lottery Draw 1321 Wed 20 Aug 08 1 , 29 , 32 , 33 , 34 , 38 bonus 6
The order of the draw was 33 , 29 , 34, 32 , 1 , 38 and bonus 6.
EL can accept lottery with one ball so i'll create a New lottery database for UK.
Based on one ball per draw and 6 draws per day (not include bonus #).
Since ball 33 was Drw before ball 29 in reality it's older with one draw than ball 29 and 2 draw than ball 34 ...
And i'll have a new database for uk as:
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:01 ball 33
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:02 ball 29
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:03 ball 34
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:04 ball 32
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:05 ball 1
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:06 ball 38
.
.
.
Here we have a new study for lottery that show us ball 33 is now 5 time older than ball 38 ...
Hope this is clear.
The idea behind what i have posted above is:
For uk lottery Draw 1321 Wed 20 Aug 08 1 , 29 , 32 , 33 , 34 , 38 bonus 6
The order of the draw was 33 , 29 , 34, 32 , 1 , 38 and bonus 6.
EL can accept lottery with one ball so i'll create a New lottery database for UK.
Based on one ball per draw and 6 draws per day (not include bonus #).
Since ball 33 was Drw before ball 29 in reality it's older with one draw than ball 29 and 2 draw than ball 34 ...
And i'll have a new database for uk as:
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:01 ball 33
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:02 ball 29
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:03 ball 34
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:04 ball 32
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:05 ball 1
Wed 20 Aug 08 21:06 ball 38
.
.
.
Here we have a new study for lottery that show us ball 33 is now 5 time older than ball 38 ...
Hope this is clear.
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It's Time Now!!!!!!
by maroc » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:32 am
Hi stan,
Please can you add last and first digit groups Stats to EL :motz: . Find an Xls attach.
It's very useful.
Thank you.
First Digit Groups
Curr Skip Avg Skips Med Skips Occurency
6-0-0-0-0-0 3 5 5 106
4-1-0-0-0-0 0 2 2 273
3-0-1-0-0-0 15 17 10 31
2-2-0-0-0-0 2 5 5 102
2-0-0-1-0-0 81 451 0 1
1-1-1-0-0-0 58 30 18 16
0-3-0-0-0-0 84 149 28 3
Last Digit Groups
Curr Skip Avg Skips Med Skips Occurency
4-1-0-0-0-0 7 7 7 72
3-0-1-0-0-0 5 6 6 82
2-2-0-0-0-0 0 3 3 208
2-0-0-1-0-0 2 21 16 25
1-1-1-0-0-0 1 5 5 102
1-0-0-0-1-0 503 29 0 1
0-3-0-0-0-0 3 18 14 30
0-1-0-1-0-0 36 124 53 4
0-0-2-0-0-0 121 51 61 8
Please can you add last and first digit groups Stats to EL :motz: . Find an Xls attach.
It's very useful.
Thank you.
First Digit Groups
Curr Skip Avg Skips Med Skips Occurency
6-0-0-0-0-0 3 5 5 106
4-1-0-0-0-0 0 2 2 273
3-0-1-0-0-0 15 17 10 31
2-2-0-0-0-0 2 5 5 102
2-0-0-1-0-0 81 451 0 1
1-1-1-0-0-0 58 30 18 16
0-3-0-0-0-0 84 149 28 3
Last Digit Groups
Curr Skip Avg Skips Med Skips Occurency
4-1-0-0-0-0 7 7 7 72
3-0-1-0-0-0 5 6 6 82
2-2-0-0-0-0 0 3 3 208
2-0-0-1-0-0 2 21 16 25
1-1-1-0-0-0 1 5 5 102
1-0-0-0-1-0 503 29 0 1
0-3-0-0-0-0 3 18 14 30
0-1-0-1-0-0 36 124 53 4
0-0-2-0-0-0 121 51 61 8
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by m4rv1n » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:49 pm
I think on 6/49 lottery not exist 600000 FDG,
0x,1x,2x,3x,4x and the last number?!
classic probability on 6/49 lottery:
FDG:
410000→1980000
301000→2112000
220000→4997520
200100→ 554400
111000→2851200
100010→ 44352
030000→ 801900
010100→ 166320
002000→ 126720
000001→ 924
LDG:
600000→2887500
410000→6930000
301000→ 924000
220000→2772000
200100→ 39600
111000→ 316800
100010→ 396
030000→ 105600
010100→ 3960
002000→ 3960
'The combo 0-3-0-0-0-0 has not been drawn for 87 times and the most frequent arrangement for LD lotto 6/49 is 4-1-0-0-0-0 about 53 %'
'cause 030000's probability only 0,76% & 410000's 49,56%?
and i think overall digits groups is usefull too.
0x,1x,2x,3x,4x and the last number?!
classic probability on 6/49 lottery:
FDG:
410000→1980000
301000→2112000
220000→4997520
200100→ 554400
111000→2851200
100010→ 44352
030000→ 801900
010100→ 166320
002000→ 126720
000001→ 924
LDG:
600000→2887500
410000→6930000
301000→ 924000
220000→2772000
200100→ 39600
111000→ 316800
100010→ 396
030000→ 105600
010100→ 3960
002000→ 3960
'The combo 0-3-0-0-0-0 has not been drawn for 87 times and the most frequent arrangement for LD lotto 6/49 is 4-1-0-0-0-0 about 53 %'
'cause 030000's probability only 0,76% & 410000's 49,56%?
and i think overall digits groups is usefull too.
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by stan » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:08 pm
[quote=maroc:1223857942]
Please can you add last and first digit groups Stats to EL :motz: . Find an Xls attach.
It's very useful.
[/quote]
i can, but it'll have to wait till expert lotto version 5.0 is finished
Please can you add last and first digit groups Stats to EL :motz: . Find an Xls attach.
It's very useful.
[/quote]
i can, but it'll have to wait till expert lotto version 5.0 is finished
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