THE FUNCTION OF PREVIEW

Postby lottoboy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:22 am

Hi, Padawan:

Thanks for your reply! There are some #s in 26-26 or 25-25, ... 10-10 sometimes but the results of Preview by using full package are very different.
For example, I have checked the rows in my Back-tests and the data of Preview is 0 or 8769222, or 4582116 only even though there is some #s in 26-26 or 25-25.... It is very unstable and very defferent from other settings except the 0-0. Why?
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Postby PadawanLotto » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:47 pm

Lottoboy, you need to go back and read what Jerzy was saying about this filter. I never used it and didn't understand it until I read Jerzy's post.

Your settings -
Number count: 0 to 6
History differences: 26 to 26
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers: 0 to 6

If I'm correct you are looking for no number hits in row 26. The amount of combinations that passed are the ones that have none of the numbers that appear in row 26. The combinations that failed are the combinations that contain numbers in row 26. So, in affect you have removed whatever number that appears in row 26 from all combination.

The Remove/Leave button has no effect on preview or back-test, the remove/leave is your choice of wether to remove the passing tickets or leave the passing tickets when you run the filter.

If you keep the same settings as above and run the filter leave and when it is done running go to statistics and calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers you will see which number or numbers that were removed. Although it would just be easier to look at row 26 of the column that you are working with and see what number is there.

If you use the same settings as above and the column that you are working with has no numbers in row 26 all combinations should pass.
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Postby PadawanLotto » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:12 am

Try this -
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
Calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers.
0 to 1 number should be drawn in the next drawing from the top occurring numbers.
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Postby lottoboy » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:39 am

[quote=PadawanLotto]
Lottoboy, you need to go back and read what Jerzy was saying about this filter. I never used it and didn't understand it until I read Jerzy's post.

Your settings -
Number count: 0 to 6
History differences: 26 to 26
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers: 0 to 6

If I'm correct you are looking for no number hits in row 26. The amount of combinations that passed are the ones that have none of the numbers that appear in row 26. The combinations that failed are the combinations that contain numbers in row 26. So, in affect you have removed whatever number that appears in row 26 from all combination.

The Remove/Leave button has no effect on preview or back-test, the remove/leave is your choice of wether to remove the passing tickets or leave the passing tickets when you run the filter.

If you keep the same settings as above and run the filter leave and when it is done running go to statistics and calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers you will see which number or numbers that were removed. Although it would just be easier to look at row 26 of the column that you are working with and see what number is there.

If you use the same settings as above and the column that you are working with has no numbers in row 26 all combinations should pass.
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Hi, Padawan:

Thanks for your nice and detail explanations!

In fact, I’m thinking there are some #s in 26-26 or 25-25, …10-10 since the % of Back-tests are more than 90%. Please look my records as below:

The drawing date of BT: 06/10/09 ; The Winning #s: 11-26--36-42-46-56 + 20
The setting of HD: 0-6/26-26/0-0/0-6;
The % of BT / Preview data (Leave): for 0 Col. = 94.44 / 0; for -1 Col. = 95.55 / 4582116; for -2 Col. = 92.71 / 0; for -3 Col. =93.20 / 0; for -4 Col. = 95.80 / 8769222; for -5 Col. = 95.92 / 4582116; for -6 Col. = 96.04 / 4582116; for -7 Col. = 93.20 / 0; for -8 Col. = 92.95 / 0; for -9 Col. = 93.82 / 0; for -10 Col. = 96.17 / 4582116.

The setting of HD: 06/25-25/0-0/0-6;
The % of BT / Preview data (Leave): for 0 Col. = 95.43 / 4582116; for -1 Col. = 95.92 / 0; for -2 Col. = 95.30 / 8769222; for -3 Col. =95.43 / 4582116; for -4 Col. = 95.55 / 4582116; for -5 Col. = 92.58 / 0; for -6 Col. = 94.19 / 0; for -7 Col. = 95.80 / 4582116; for -8 Col. = 94.19 / 0; for -9 Col. = 96.04 / 4582116; for -10 Col. = 96.29 / 8769222.

The setting of HD: 0-6/24-24/0-0/0-6;
The % of BT / Preview data (Leave): for 0 Col. = 95.18 / 0; for -1 Col. = 94.68 / 4582116; for -2 Col. = 93.20 / 4582116; for -3 Col. =93.33 / 8769222; for -4 Col. = 94.43 / 8769222; for -5 Col. = 96.17 / 4582116; for -6 Col. = 96.17 / 4582116; for -7 Col. = 95.18 / 0; for -8 Col. = 95.67 / 0; for -9 Col. = 94.31 / 0; for -10 Col. = 96.29 / 4582116.

…….

NOTE: The Bold & Underline above is failed or JP lost. The Preview data (Leave) above is the Failed one (not Passed)

My questions is If my operations above are wrong ? If not, why the preview data always is two : 4582116 or 8769222 except 0. I want to estimate the next result by comparing the change of Preview Data in two or three continue drawings (for example, by comparing 06/06/09 and 06/10/09 to estimate 06/13/09) I can do that for other settings but not 0-0 setting since the Preview data is too crazy to believe. I’m afraid that there is some wrong or bug in the code of setting 0-0.

The Remove/Leave button has no effect the item of back-test since the % of BT shows passed % only. In other words, the % of BT tells us the Leaving status of Wns in a special Col. But the Preview data is effected by Remove/Leave button even though the data is not change when you clicking the R/L again.

I do suggest that you can make some BTs by using 0-0 setting and full package for your Ohio 6/49 focus on the Preview Data if you have free time. Maybe, you can meet same problem (two preview data only) with me.

BTW, I have graduated from OSU in Columbus for my Master Degree 5 years ago, I LOVE OHIO! Where do you live now?

Best,
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Postby lottoboy » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:41 am

[quote=PadawanLotto]
Try this -
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
Calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers.
0 to 1 number should be drawn in the next drawing from the top occurring numbers.
[/quote]

Thanks, Padawan!

I will try those setting later.

Best,
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Postby PadawanLotto » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:28 am

My questions is If my operations above are wrong ? If not, why the preview data always is two : 4582116 or 8769222 except 0. I want to estimate the next result by comparing the change of Preview Data in two or three continue drawings (for example, by comparing 06/06/09 and 06/10/09 to estimate 06/13/09) I can do that for other settings but not 0-0 setting since the Preview data is too crazy to believe. I’m afraid that there is some wrong or bug in the code of setting 0-0.
If you are looking for information for 6/10/09 skip that draw and look at 6/609. Go to WN History, History Differences, look at rows 24, 25, and 26 in each column and see if there are any numbers in those rows.

There are 59 numbers and 40,475,358 combinations in your lotto game, if you remove 1 number you remove 4,582,116 combinations, if you remove 2 numbers you remove 8,769,222 combinations. So, when you BT with the setting you have above and there is 1 number in row 26 the results will show 4582116 failed. When there are 2 numbers in row 26 the results will show 8769222 failed. When there are no numbers in row 26 the results will show 0 failed.


The Remove/Leave button has no effect the item of back-test since the % of BT shows passed % only. In other words, the % of BT tells us the Leaving status of Wns in a special Col. But the Preview data is effected by Remove/Leave button even though the data is not change when you clicking the R/L again.
The Remove/Leave has no effect on search criteria (The setting of HD: 0-6/24-24/0-0/0-6) be it back-test or Preview. Remove/leave is for filtering, remove = remove passing combinations, leave = keep passing combinations. Remove/Leave only works when you click Ok or Apply and you are choosing to either remove passing combinations or leave passing combinations.


I do suggest that you can make some BTs by using 0-0 setting and full package for your Ohio 6/49 focus on the Preview Data if you have free time. Maybe, you can meet same problem (two preview data only) with me.
There is no problem with the data results, it's just getting an understanding of how the filter works. Back-testing results that are in the 90% range is showing you that most drawings no numbers are coming from rows 24, 25, or 26.


BTW, I have graduated from OSU in Columbus for my Master Degree 5 years ago, I LOVE OHIO! Where do you live now?
I live in Dayton Ohio.
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Postby lottoboy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:21 am

Padawan,

You are right!!!

Indeed, 1# has been removed in the special row and special col. should corresponds that 4582116 tickets have been removed from full package. 2 #s correspond 8769222 tickets out off after checking the HD page carefully

Also, thanks for Martin too even though I have not yet understood your post until Padawan’s explanation.

“There is no problem with the data resultsâ€￾ I agree with you!
Stan, I’m so sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for Padawan's nice, clear and detail explanations again!!!
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Postby lottoboy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:48 am

[quote=PadawanLotto:1246407171]
Try this -
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
Calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers.
0 to 1 number should be drawn in the next drawing from the top occurring numbers.
[/quote]

Hi, Padawan:

I have tested your special setting and the results are as below:

The test drawing date: 06/10/09 (Wed):
The estimating drawing date: 06/13/09 (Sat) and its WNs: 33-35-37-47-48-58 (+21)
The BT=0.74%. (by using 809 WNs)
The leaving tickets after “OKâ€￾ =8008;
The result of sorted statistics shown on the attachment.

It’s very interesting even the result is not ideal. But I believe firmly that it would be a great strategy if you can improve it further. Thanks.

Best,
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Postby PadawanLotto » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:22 am

[quote=lottoboy]
[quote=PadawanLotto:1246407171]
Try this -
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
Calculate stats for tickets in package, show stats for ticket numbers.
0 to 1 number should be drawn in the next drawing from the top occurring numbers.
[/quote]

Hi, Padawan:

I have tested your special setting and the results are as below:

The test drawing date: 06/10/09 (Wed):
The estimating drawing date: 06/13/09 (Sat) and its WNs: 33-35-37-47-48-58 (+21)
The BT=0.74%. (by using 809 WNs)
The leaving tickets after “OKâ€￾ =8008;
The result of sorted statistics shown on the attachment.

It’s very interesting even the result is not ideal. But I believe firmly that it would be a great strategy if you can improve it further. Thanks.

Best,
lb
[/quote]You get different results than I do because you are working with a 6/59. The amount of combination doesn't matter you are just looking at the numbers that are left over.

If you test the filter the other way around you will get a higher %.
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 5 to 6
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all

Better understanding, when you run the filter with the setting below you are finding all of the numbers that are not in row 1 of all columns 0 thur -10.

Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
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Postby lottoboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:29 am

Hi, Padawan:

Thanks for your reply.

[quote=PadawanLotto]
If you test the filter the other way around you will get a higher %.
Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 5 to 6
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
[/quote]

The BT of your setting above is 0
(by using 810 WNs) for my game. Maybe, the reason still comes from my game (6/59).

[quote=PadawanLotto]
Better understanding, when you run the filter with the setting below you are finding all of the numbers that are not in row 1 of all columns 0 thur -10.

Number count: 0 to 66
History differences: 1 to 1
Numbers in a single column: 0 to 0
Even numbers 0 to 66
Columns to use: 0 thru -10 check all
Matching Tickets: Leave
[/quote]

Sorry, I don’t understand your means above. What strategy would be working for my game (6/59)?

Also, I still think that all members need to ask Stan for the newest Strategy.
The reason is very simple: more than 5 years have passed (from 2004 when EL began to work until now), no any person got JP by using EL Program except Stan or EL Team if his speech---“perhaps a couple of weeks later you might catch a news flash saying that some lottery operator in central europe has gone bankrupt suddenlyâ€￾---is truth.

Best,
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Postby Falcon » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:49 am

Also, I still think that all members need to ask Stan for the newest Strategy.


Hi lottoboy. Not sure I agree. I think at this stage the most important thing is for Stan to allocate his resources to the completion of the next version of EL.

regards

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Postby lottoboy » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:13 am

Hi, Martin:

How are you doing today?

Could you give me some advices about the Preview Analysis as below?
I got some results by using Preview Analysis from the Filter of WinSum:

1) At least 9 to 9 Columns must pass.
Preview Analysis: Passed Tickets=A; Failed Tickets=B;
2 9-10: PT=A; FT=B;
3) 9-11: PT=C (A+B); FT=0;
4) 10-11: PT=B; FT=A;
5) 11-11: PT=B; FT=A;

And the JP is in C. Also, the results above have been gotten from same game, same settings and same drawing date.

What information we can get from the results above?
Can we know where is the JP in? A or B? Why? Thanks.

Best,
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Postby MartinMan » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:05 pm

Hello lottoboy,

I am not sure what you are doing, but if you have the winning ticket when you start then it has to be in either the passed tickets or the failed tickets no matter what your settings are.

So when the winner is in C, that is just the passed and failed tickets combined and has to have the winning ticket if it was there in the first place.

Unfortunately we can't tell before hand what group the winner will be in. I wished we could. We can look after the fact, but not before. The winner can, and will, be anywhere.

Regards,
Martin
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Postby lottoboy » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:13 am

[quote=MartinMan]
Hello lottoboy,

I am not sure what you are doing, but if you have the winning ticket when you start then it has to be in either the passed tickets or the failed tickets no matter what your settings are.

So when the winner is in C, that is just the passed and failed tickets combined and has to have the winning ticket if it was there in the first place.

Unfortunately we can't tell before hand what group the winner will be in. I wished we could. We can look after the fact, but not before. The winner can, and will, be anywhere.

Regards,
Martin
[/quote]

I see, Thanks.
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